How come Google is considering NOfollow link as Backlink?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by mirisaamali, Apr 8, 2010.

  1. #1
    I was going through my webmastertools information and was surprised to find that there are many links that are Nofollow, Yet Google counted them as back link for my sites.

    Does this mean that Google no more considers the concept of Dofollow or Nofollow??:)
     
    mirisaamali, Apr 8, 2010 IP
  2. rov cook

    rov cook Peon

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    hey that i had also seen & marked up many time, that is why i go with good site not with Dofollow & Nofollow links.
     
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  3. simpseo

    simpseo Active Member

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    Just because these links show up in GWT it doesn't mean that they are counted as far as rankings and Pagerank goes. Having said that, some people think that certain nofollow links do pass value, simply due to the large amount of nofollow links pointing to good resources. Therefore, it's conceivable that Google may make exceptions, but I work on the assumption that the vast majority of nofollow links pass no value at all.
     
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  4. financialhost

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    Google still follows link with no follow - what no follow really means is that Google and some other search engines will not assign any power from the link.

    So in other words it won't count as a vote - so won't improve SEO but the search engines will still follow the link and index the content.
    Just because it shows as a back link does not change this.
     
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  5. Objects

    Objects Well-Known Member

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    I think nofollow is representing a backlink but differ from dofollow that nofollow will not take the spider to follow your site link and index your other pages there but it will index the specific current page in URL assigned to a nofollow attribute
     
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    What google shows in google webmaster tools & what it shows to visitors in google search results are not related. In tools section it only helps you analyze what you have, google doesnt say that these are counted for you, at the time of crawling a page with a nofollow link to your site, it still knows that the link is there but it will not value it while it decides about the pr & ranking for sites in search results.
     
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  7. verdecove

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    Google has listed nofollow links in quite a while in webmastertools for my site. I think it's all about if the link is some sort of quality to google and site theme related.
    So e.g. I got several backlinks listed from a forum that all links (even the signature links) are nofollow tagged but the forum itself is very related to the theme of my site.
    Also I think the PR of the site (the site, not the page) the nofollow link comes from is important.

    Cheers
    verdecove
     
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  8. MarkAse

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    I've seen a few studies at a different IM forum, showing blank wordpress blogs ranking for normal search terms using only no-follow links.

    I don't think no-follow has existed for quite a while. I think it is in Google's best interest to say it does, in order to keep the amount of Spam as low as possible.
     
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    Google is NOT counting nofollow links. They show NOFOLLOW links in the LINK: operator output as well as WMT to confuse you... so you won't know which links are counted and which links are not. They also show links from pages on other sites known to be under penalty and these are not counted either. They show you links that don't count, and don't show you links that do count. Both link: and WMT show you a sample of your backlinks... that's it. They don't want you to be able to reverse engineer their algo to determine what types of links they count and what kind they don't.

    I think you're wrong. Pages can rank with absolutely NO inbound links if Google can find the page (like through a sitemap) and if the keyword phrase has little or no competition. The "studies" are generally done by rookie SEOs who don't know that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to set up a controlled experiment on the web to prove this and other SEO theories. And I'd be willing to bet that while the links from external sites "might" have been NOFOLLOW, the links to the page in question from other pages on the same site ARE followed.

    It would be absolutely stupid for Google to count NOFOLLOW links. The invented NOFOLLOW to help deal with spam. They tell webmastmers that if you don't trust the site your linking to and don't want us to count it as a vote promoting that site then put NOFOLLOW on the link. Now if they start counting NOFOLLOW they have absolutely no way of detecting spam links that shouldn't be counted from good links that should.
     
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  10. simpseo

    simpseo Active Member

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    The SEOMoz team certainly think that there is some value in some nofollow links and they are certainly not rookies. To look at it logically, there is a use for nofollow so I'm certain it's being used but there is a case to be made that search engines should make exceptions, given that a lot of nofollow links actually point to useful resources. It would be wrong to just completely ignore ALL nofollow links for this very reason.
     
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  11. aniru

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    its a tactic by google, they don't want you to find out what there algorithm is all about, they just want to confuse everyone, that's how google works
     
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  12. Ruchi Srivastava

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    As far as i've experienced, when we all know and heard alot that dofollow links are more juicy then why thinking about nofollow....There is a big difference which some of us usually don't understand :-

    If you have a site like Flippa, Twitter, DigitalPoint : Means you have a Community/Marketplace site....where Traffic matters...so in this case, you can even build many nofollow links on Important sites bcz you are looking for good traffic not just PR.

    If you are Selling Services or a Product, you may want to build links which will boost your search engine rankings within a few months and there you need purely dofollow links...bcz your links are dofollow, google catch you more quickly, your website on google for your keyword will appear more quickly.

    Thats how it works in my eyes.

    Thanks
     
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    Google will count a nofollow backlinks in a long periode, if your nofollow backlinks is really come from authority site and trusted site in a relevant niche!
     
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    Although Yahoo! Answer and Wikipedia are usually nofollow, Google has been counting them as backlinks
     
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    as far i know google bots read all the content. So they also catched the http:// . no folow only not giving google page rank. But that is gud for serp
     
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    google is not counting nofollow but yahoo is counting and yahoo can give good result with nofollow links
     
    hutch1989m16, Apr 9, 2010 IP