Hello, In the next weeks I'll open a PTC (paid-to-click) site, my business model will be much more susteinable that all those scamming sites and I believe that I'll suceed, however I have a big doubt in my mind... Is worth to promote clickbank products? Usually people that promote clickbank products with ppc system, most of the times it converts in one sale for 50-200 clicks, sometimes more or less. So I was thinking that in a PTC site, with very poor traffic it should converts something like 1:20k clicks... What do you think of my theory? Big sites like neobux and others just promote clickbank or forex products, always these "make easy money online" like paid surverys etc... One thing interesting that I found is this image about clickbank sales: http://flippa.com/auctions/73947/attachments/95309.png This picture is from one site that was put on sale called "buxwiz" at this time it had over 100k register members and a good alexa ranking. As you see unless this image is fake, they were doing very well with clickbank earing around $250 per day. So what are your opinions? Is it possible to make at least 3..4 sales per day with a good traffic with a PTC site?
why are you wasting so much energy on ptc .... it will just burn a hole in your pocket nothing else. 3-4 sales a day with PTC is asking too much .
You could probably make 1 sale for every 20,000 visitors...but why wouldn't you work on a website where you could make 1 sale for every 100 visitors instead? Unless you can easily generate hundreds of thousands of free visitors to your PTC, I sure wouldn't bother with it.
@kodut I'm spending my energy on ptc because I'm experiencied on this "business" and I know how it works, I'll not use the ponzi scheme like other fail PTC site uses, I also have some good strategies. @dlm The same as I said above. I'll spend money advertising on 10 or more related sites with good traffic, I'm sure that I'll get thousands of visitors per day. My goal is not earn money only with clickbank, I'll get referrals for other programs. My site will be similar like this one: clicksia.com If you take a look you'll notice that the owner is promoting some clickbank products and a site with almost all the time with 300 online people should make a couple of sales per day... what do you think?
I don't really understand. You asked us a question. Both myself and kodut said it probably wasn't a great idea. You don't seem to like our answers, so why did you ask in the first place? If you think you can create a successful PTC site, then do it. But I wouldn't expect Clickbank to work very well with it (you can always test it out and use different offers if Clickbank doesn't convert well).
The question is not if I liked or not of your answer. And I know that I'll not earn $1000 per day promoting clickbank. All that I want to know is a opinion... the main question I'd like to know if it can converts in one sale for each 10 or 20k clicks and you answered it. One thing that I think interesting is that some people invest hundreds or even $1k in sites like neobux and onbux... if there are people spending this amount of money should have others spending $40 on a clickbank product.
I would recommend against this... yeh it will probably convert 1:20,000.... you say this like it is acceptable... what is that like 0.0002% ???? This is aweful... I make a list of all PTC traffic being sent to me every week or so and send it to clickbank to get their accounts banned from sending traffic to me... As dlm said above, you ask here if this is a good idea, and then get defensive when people say it's not... it is in my humble opinion a terrible idea... the worst approach... I would recommend articles, blogging, REAL ppc, and of course LIST BUILDING to anyone getting into this... PTC would be the last thing I would recommend... I wouldn't recommend it at all, it is total junk... imagine being in a real sales job - cold calling people, where your conversion rate is 1 sale for every 20k phone calls you make... theres no way that you couldn't argue your business model to be a complete failure... so why even pursue this online...
Yep, I think you should do it, in fact multiply your efforts x 5, don't listen to anyone else you got it all man - great strategy! $.002 a click and who cares if they're not targeted right? I think you should invest every last penny into it, don't stop there, take out some loans and start many many sites like this, flood them all with mish mash offers + cb + cpa + adsense, so no matter what they click it's monnnnney! Come back in a bit let us know how it goes, you'll be rich so don't forget about the lil' people. **PS - I ban people like you from my products all the time - so make sure the vendors you are attempting to throw this traffic at know this in advance or you'll get booted for swallowing bandwidth/resource on a BS campaign that rarely/never converts and throws my whole avg./charting/conversion rates off the map. You cost me more in server resource/slowing my site down/giving me shitty eyeballs/bandwidth than your campaigns will evarrr be worth. PTC + CB is a very shittty combo (so is PPV). Vendors HATE your guts and will ban you without notice, you never convert, you cost me money sometimes vs. making me money with your influx of shitttt traffic... ... .. Not to say you can't monetize PTC (I personally HATE the model but whatever floats your boat), just trying to do it through CPS is not recommended or admired. On the flip side if YOU own the offer, make it a really cheap/low ticket offer or CPA - and get your own traffic to your own offer, you might be onto som'...
Most of the people that sign up for those sites don't have money, that's why they sign up to get paid pennies to click. I doubt they will buy any clickbank products... Also DLM is right, if you're so sure you can make work, then why bother asking anybody if it will work...
Ok, thanks for you opinions... @submp3s's and NCMedia wow, it's funny how you hate ptc sites... yep, I also hate these scamming kids... But even ptc being a junk traffic and if it can convert in 1:20k you shoud consider it. Or you don't have money to pay a good dedicated server? I didn't know that CB can ban accounts because are promoting a product with junk traffic. @The Peoples SEO Yes, most of the people don't have money, many of them are from India or Indonesia. But for me 1 sale for every 10 or 30k clicks are good enough. My doubt is not if I'll become millionare promoting clickbank on ptc site.
"Yes, most of the people don't have money, many of them are from India or Indonesia. But for me 1 sale for every 10 or 30k clicks are good enough." Well if that's all you need to make, then that's all that matters, good luck with your venture...
And about the picture that I posted before, do you think that it's fake? It seems to good to be true... However if the image is real they were doing very well and ptc traffic can convert, do you agree with me? $200 per day is a good amount, at least for me. This site had 100k registered users and probably 20...40k active users.
You'll get very low conversions. Apart from Internet Marketing products I'm afraid something else will convert anyways.
LOL. Ok, sure buddy. Whatever you say. Go start the site, I'm sure it will become incredibly successful for you.
Buxwiz.com used to be a PTC site that is now closed. They might have been making that kind of money with Clickbank, but obviously something didn't work out for them. \ Here's their Alexa trend (the domain is parked now) http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/buxwiz.com# Imagine that they had way larger costs to run the site, comparing to the profits.
This kind of sites will always fail because they use a unstable business model. Usually 1 cent per click and instant payments for all members is suicide. They try to copy neobux model and will fail.
Don't ask for advice if you can't take it... you asked a question, 100% of the responses on here are negative against your ideas, from people who make very good money online, and have done for several years... people who know this industry inside-out... ...yet, from a position of not having experienced it you revolt against this advice, become defensive in your own UNPROVEN ideas and say we should be happy to receive traffic that is converting at 1 in 20k.... are you crazy... my best affiliates convert at 1 in 30, most convert under 1 in 100... Having you alone on my affiliate program would be sending 1/3 of all traffic to me, and you would bring my overall conversion rate down from 2% to less than 1% - single-handedly... and I should thank you for that... for the $10 you are making for me every 20k visits.... you're not living in the real world mate...
I'd second that. I think it's bad management within most of these sites that fail. The majority of members on PTC sites are from 3rd world countries that are happy to make an extra $20 or $100 a month which is better than their average/minimum salary anyways. Or, they're kids looking to make a couple dollars to buy their favorite PC game.. Problem is it isn't that easy to manage a PTC site and actually attract powerful advertisers.
I agree with you. However if you take a look at neobux or onbux forums you'll find many people that invested hundreds or even more that $1k. So if we take it on consideration, should be some people interested on some $40 clickbank products. My plan is to promote these "easy" MMO/IM products. If I reach 100k registered members with only 20% of them active I could easily generate $100 per day - not a fortune but a good amount of money for me.