How can you prove PR is not updated for 100 days?

Everyone says PR is not updated for 100 days. Any proof on that?

 

Everyone is saying that Toolbar PR has not been updated for a month.

Easy enough to determine that - look at the toolbar and see if you can find any sites which have changed PR in the past 100 days.

 

that raises two questions:

So, you mean toolbar PR and google PR are two things?
Do you keep track sites except your own for more than 100 days? It may simple PR changes less.

I checked on other forums, could not find anyone with a PR tracking tool to show proof.

 

Google server side PR updates on a daily rolling basis, and has done for some months now. It is only the public side backlinks and toolbar PR that updates periodically. The last visible PR update was to the Google directory.

 

HI OWG do you have some reference to this?

If what you mean by rolling is that there is an incremental PR update of some pages today and others tomorrow, I do not see how this is possible as any time the PR of one site changes it can effect the PR of many other pages, who inturn affect other pages....

 

Does anybody know anybody who works at google or anything?

 

2004 Sept 8/2004 Toolbar Update: Google launched a new toolbar update (v 2.0.114). Sept 8 Toolbar Update

Toolbar updated on Sep 8?

By the way, whose picture you are using for your avatar?

 

Hot Blond Webmaster, Model plus SEO expert! Wow. You should be on Apprentice. I thought Amy in Apprentice I was my dream lady. Adam Mesh was my idol.

Back to topic, why would anyone assume Toolbar is not changing but server side is changing.

It may just seems to me a lot of SEO and webmaster talks are referencing some data which no where to be found or confirmed. It is always "i heard somebody heard something from somebody and here is what i remember what i heard" It may just me not yet in the circle long enough to trust what they say. I always want to see facts and proofs.

 

Well lets establish some facts.

1. The PR update that we all are waiting for is simply the publishing of a public report.

2. We certainly know from all kinds of test -- see the McDar thread as an example -- that the value of a link in regards to relevance is updated on a continual and ongoing basis.

3. If in fact PR counts anymore towards SERP placement -- a big if in my mind -- then it stands to reason that it also is being updated internally, otherwise how do you explain the movement of pages in the SERPs before either their backlinks are reported or their PR is updated?

Now Google may do some preliminary in-house estimate of PR, because it is true that a full PR calculation requires a large number of iterations, and it is hard to imagine that even Google has the horse power to be doing that on a daily basis.

 

>I believe that has to do with a new version of the Google Toolbar being released
They changed the checksum and released a new version of the toolbar. The toolbar pagerank wasn't updated.

 

Agree with compar 100%. The PR you are looking at is very old, so don't worry about it. G internally changes your sites PR more often then the toolbar. If your site is in the G directory, you may see a difference in PR there, many speculate that it is a more current PR value (but still old).

But seriously, enough about PR. If you spend enough time gazing into that green value in that toolbar, you will get sidetracked from optimization. You dont need PR to get traffic, you need content, links, and proper on-site SEO. Our site has a PR of zero (started SEO in mid-June), and we average 300 unique hits a day. Not bragging, just saying PR really doesn't mean what most people think it means.

 

I agree.

Real PR is updated on a daily basis, thats why sites with a PR of 0/10 can rank #1.

Toolbar PR has not been updated for a 100 odd days, mostly to stop the buying of PR.

Try and forget about PR, focus instead on content and link building.

Clare

 

That is called SEPR, not PR. SEPR is keyword senstive. PR is topic sentive. PR is passable to its children. SEPR is not.

 

SEPR change without PR change is very possible.
PR is class. SEPR is wealth. Remember IT. I said it first in the world.
Kennedy is always Kennedy. They can be poor or rich. Their blood is always blue. Bush is always Bush, no matter if they are in TX, FL or DC, MA, Yale or China. Bush has blood from Hitler.

For a URL, you want to have a high SEPR. For a link seller or spammer, you want high PR, so you can pass them to your clients.

Everyone is confusing with PR and SEPR. Still nobody proves that PR not changed in 100 days. My theory is that the current change is so slow that 1-10 can not be meature it. It must be 0.000001 - 0.01, so still changing, but not detectable by human eyes at toolbar.

PR not updated in 100 days is a FALSE statement, like Iraq has WMD.

 

qll:

You need therapy.

Perhaps Minstrel will give you a discount.

 

No. It's the other way round -- with more severe mental illness, I have to work harder so I'd have to charge more...

 

OK. tell me what problems I have. Is it me, or everyone else? Heard the story that people in a village all drinked mad water to become mad except one person. Every mad man thinks he is mad. Then he drinked it too. So nobody is mad in every other's eyes.