Hello...I am the new latino guy here I guess. I have a very important edifying point here. Probably you should know it too. This will probably be my happy welcome to the forum. I think I have a solution for not getting banned from adsense even if people do daily click-fraud on you and google probably knowing it. What do you think it will prevent YOU, from getting banned from google? This is a very important welcome question for me and for us I believe. Your assistance if having a little knowledge in it, will be appreciated. Thank You. Nova
Google knows if it is someone else. You can keep a log of any strange activity you notice but other then that, you don't have to do anything.
Don't show AdSense to they same user more than N times. Make it clicksor, yahoo, amazon, cj, whatever ads after a couple impressions from the same punter.
My god, this forum will be addictive. 2 response in less than 1 minute from launching my question. How great! Anyways... There is some gossip around forums and people telling with security that people should not enroll in adse if they are NOT a corporation. The adsense team, (as all humans)...no kidding! (Little Morning Humor!)...will drop-conclusions with the click-frauds in your account based on how new you are to adsense and the entire business you have around them (wether is adwords or adsense)... If you don't have major business and some click-frauds have happened...you are probably extict for life from adsense? True? I want to clean this gossip mess all around my mind and over other forum people mind. Your assistance is already a blessing. Thank you. Nova p.s- I believe there is no way to be innocent when you have click-fraud...google will just don't care...even if you are enrolled as an indivuidual who barely makes few dollars in adwords or in adsense. You get adsense click-fraud...you are out in few days? In a nutshell that is!
I can tell you for a fact that Google does care. You can be suspended for click fraud, even if it isn't your fault (regardless of account size) but you will not be banned. There is a human review after the suspension and if it is found that you were not the one responsible, you will be reinstated minus the funds gained through the fraud. Most people just move on when they get the suspension. It is up to the publisher in many cases to email a response back to the suspension notice.
You seem to be a nice guy who knows a lot about google adsense. This is just not my field, I am barely coming in here to play with the big dogs. Can you or someone tell me a software that will get me evidence to google adsense team that there are not click frauds from me or for someone I know. Just like a main competitor trying to out-bully me or something. I need that kind of software, to get my innocence to google adsense. I'm prepared to make a lot of money in the long-run...I am preparing a little 'Cojones' box to deal with possible obstacle while developing my adsense. Thanks A Lot Mr. Ireland. Hope I can buy you a beer anytime soon! Nova P.S-I have adtrackz, but it is not for adsense...I heard about adsensetracker.com , but I think I need something like it or better?
I think a lot of people reading this thread will wonder why you are so worried before you have even signed up for the AdSense program? I believe access to your logs is a must. If your hosting company does not make these available, I would switch right away. I personally don't think any other software is neccesary if it is just for detecting fraud. I think there are a lot of other ways to insulate yourself. the first is: Don't tell anyone about your AdSense sites. Sometimes your family and friends think they are "helping you out" by clicking on your ads. They do this to help not understanding its fraud and it can result in a ban that sticks. Another is if you think something may or may not violate the TOS, email Google. Don't trust people in forums opinions, ask the source. You can then save that email so if there is ever trouble down the road, it can be used to show you were advised its ok There are a lot more tips though. Of course I feel obliged to add: Dont click on your own Ads for ANY reason!
Let's just say that I intend to build few great sites, that because of the niche and kind of competition that have paid membership, and you having it free...will pissed a few people off...specially when you can hit the alexa top 100,000 rank in no time. That's just plain skepticism on me with google management, I belong to a few forums...and I see all the people getting banned complaining there innocent, etc. Just my precaution, want to enter with the right tools. That's it. Usually a big concern, and why I don't advertise my stuff to much in forums. You remind me, thank you. Google will answer in few days, here I get immediate answer for my concerns. I am still little skeptical of click-fraud...my investment in 800-1,200 page sites will be huge promotion and the risk is a little high. Just taking my precautions, that is it. I'm the kind of 'Latino' that precocupies for every little thing on the net , I think. Thank you all for the support! Nova P.S- Any other great adsense book, just read adsense-secrets and adsense empire. Reading a little here and there can be great, specially for adsense rookie addicts!
Don't tell your mom, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather, brother, best friend, pet dog, plant, Duck-Billed Platypus, Venus Flytrap, pet rock... about your web sites!! Heck, don't even tell yourself!
You should have other alternative ready to go at the touch of a button should your account be suspended. The human review process can take as little as 2 days to 8 weeks. If you put all your eggs in one basket, you are leaving yourself a bit open. The time frame I specified seems to rely on the size you are. It is of course specualtion but I have done a lot of research on this in the last few months. Publishers so far in the mid 5 figures / month have been reinstated in a day or two. Those in mid 4 figures / month in around 7-10 days and I have seen few cases where publishers in the very low 3 figures taking up to 8 weeks. As far as your original post about webmasters publicly claiming their innocence and not getting back in, in my experience those that truly just caught the filter but did nothing wrong, don't post about it...They contact Google and get it taken care of. 95% of the posts I have seen here where they proclaim innocence in the first post admit around page 3 that they *may* have clicked on their own ads.
Bottom line is you enter into a business relationship with Google. They are your customer. Treat them professionally, and act professionally yourself. You will be fine. Unfortunately a lot of people think adsense is a toy or game and treat as such and then wonder why they find themselves in trouble.
That is very interesting edifying answer. By the way you write, I'm willing to bet my 'dog'(probably I hate that darn 'Akita' ) that you are making a living out of adsense...LOL It must be darn good even if it's another paycheck. Will do my best to follow-up on your re-search...my nich are for newbie look around prospects. That's why I would have soon a huge adsense site. In fact, I'm battleing with RSS feeds right now ...you will watching you. You and your friends are goodies when it comes to Adsense... Thanks for all your support. A quick "Hi" from a Latino Work-Aholic! Nova
Well, I will PM you my address so you can send me your dog...lol I don't make my living from Adsense although I do Ok. There are 3 people I know of on this forum that post regularly and are in the top group I mentioned. There are a LOT of people in the middle group and of course we all started in the bottom one My examples there were more to give an idea on the system as a whole.