How can i get listed in ODP / DMOZ

LOL... 3-5 years is an eternity in terms of an internet site... that's like saying it'll snow sometime during the year I suspect. AOLs held it longer than I thought they would, and Q is right except as I recall the sale of dmoz by aol has been predicted longer than that.

Actually a sale might be a good thing IMO... sometimes change is a good thing and breathes new life into a project. AOL has always had a bit of a quandary with what to do with it because of the hippie-throwback nature of the non-revenue model, it'd be fun to see what someone else might do with it.

 

Agreed sale is probably only thing that can save DMOZ, as it is now it looks more like some factory in some socialist country (former Yugoslavia, Soviet Union etc.) it produces nothing of value to anyone, most workers aren't paid unless they have some scheme running, owner is investing only the bare minimum to keep it running although he has no idea why he is doing it, most people don't even know factory exist let alone what product it makes and persons that by some mysterious reason wants to buy the product are unable beacuse factory doesn't sale it directly to the end-user.

 

I think that google should take over it or they should have some other way to add websites to their directory

 

LOL.

This is probably the best description of ODP, I have heard in a long time.

 

you give me some information about DMOZ

 

If DMOZ doesn't have the potential to make any money, how are any of the free directories making any money?

 

They'd have the *potential* except for the founders having promised it'd never go commercial and the pact they have with the volunteer editors echoes those lines. AOL owns a check they can't cash.

 

Advertising and the like on directories brings in an income. A road so far AOL has not walked with ODP, but that could change of course, but I reckon ODP is still worth a bit as a going concern, trouble is if it were commercialised the editors could take it all and go the way of Wiki, as I understand it, because a buyer could not buy exclusive rights to the project. But I am no lawyer or financier.

I like to feel that AOL sees it as a way of putting something back into the internet for the money they make out of it.

And all of this is severely off topic.

 

ODP metas agreeing to create directory where logs and all there internal discussions are opened to public, with all editors electing and removing metas??? Yeah, right!

Main reason why ODP keeps going down compared to wiki is its secrecy, its so secret even those that knew about it have forgotten it. Many editors joined wikipeida because they could actually do something useful there without paranoid metas constantly watching them and be more interested in editors edit count then actual work.

In case you didn't know at wikipedia admins are voted for by all the editors unlike ODP where only metas decides who can join them, same goes for removal.

 

Wrong.

Meta editors cannot promote ordinary editors to more senior levels at all. Only Admins and Staff can do that.

Similarly, Metas cannot remove senior editors either. That too is the province of Admins and Staff.

However, Metas can and do voice their opinions.

Guidelines (written before the creation of Admins)
Admin Guidelines.

 

So metas tell staff what they want and staff do it... and all dissuasions remains confidential in meta (and staff I guess) only forum, yep, very big difference NOT!

They way that forum is kept off limits I'm scared to even think what we might find there. Lets hope that forum and all the dirt that is going in there never (by some weird error) becomes public or I got a feeling some people would commit suicide.

 

I wish

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Staff is AOL so it might take them few years, understandable.

 

Are they running around naked in there since the consensus vote on adult is almost and always a winning margin ? That would be disgusting to see.

 

now I'll have nightmares for weeks, I hate you

 

As Jim said - if only! You obviously have not the slightest idea about the directory or how it operates, or indeed how it is managed. Sad, but understandable. (Both your view and directory management. LOL)

 

Who you trying to impress ? Ok you tell us how it operates like true to its word the Open Directory Project. Why is there a Meta Forum separate from editors forum which is already not visible to the public ? Add me to the list and make my being removed public. I already gave permission publicly.

Management does it apply financially and receiving monetary such as listings bulk or individual ?

I will try to find the bits and pieces file of the Meta Forum I have. Then you will again disappear and resurface when the thread is lock leaving threads unanswered. Same tactics you use even at WPW days.

 

One of the reasons is that people like you will try and use private posts for your own purposes.

Yes give permission for the reasons to be made public when you know full well that even editors who are not metas do not have this information and any editor posting information from our forums (metas, editalls or general forums) in a public place can be removed.

But you keep telling us you are an editor, so you can post any of the forums on here, if you have some meta forum posts that you really did have the right of access to as an editor, then you must have the threads about why you were dismissed. If you have been given pirate information from meta forums then you must have the information about your dismissal. So you post it and don't ask our editors to break the rules we have accepted as part of our being an editor. You could also just use your memory about being booted, then you would know too, you can post that as well.

 

Er what? Sorry but I have no clue at all what you are talking about - perhaps you are confusing me with someone else?

As for explaining how the ODP works, I have been doing that ever since I came to this forum. Perhaps you weren't reading my posts. There aren't all that many, so you might find it helpful to review some of them, if there are still big gaps in your understanding.

 

Well that seems very generous of you (not that ODP policies are affected in any way) but of course you are safe in the knowledge that it will not happen, thereby saving you considerable embarrassment.
Move on. Others manage to do it. Find another hobby. Editing is just a way of spending a little recreational time. Surely there are other options for you?