How Can I get good PR in google

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by vertex, Sep 16, 2004.

  1. #1
    I am optimizing my site http://www.vertex.net.pk website is related to
    Web Hosting Web Designing Web Marketing Web Development e-commerce
    development solution let me know how can I get ranking on google.
     
    vertex, Sep 16, 2004 IP
  2. TwisterMc

    TwisterMc Mac Guru

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    Umm.... google PR is temporarily broken. Or that's what people think since it hasn't updated in months. You can find a few discussions around here on it by searching. :)
     
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  3. Such Great Heights

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    Get lots of people to link to you to get higher PR rank.

    The more the better. Or is it the more, the more better. :p
     
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  4. DarrenC

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    1 word Links
     
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    1. Relevant anchors.

    2. PR is only of value in achieving point 1 with webmasters who still think that PR is of value.

    I will happily take links from a PR0 page that is indexed, subject to a few criteria that our spider checks.
     
    Jenny Barclay, Sep 16, 2004 IP
  6. PRBot.Com

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    Jenny, I am interested. PM me with your criteria.
     
    PRBot.Com, Sep 16, 2004 IP
  7. compar

    compar Peon

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    What do you mean by "a good ranking"? Do you mean PageRank or do you mean good SERP placement?

    You need inbound links for both, but it is the anchor text and the rtelevance of the inbound links that will get you placed well in the SERPs.

    If you want a high PageRank -- and most people now agree it is almost unimportant -- then you need inbound links from pages that have a high PageRank.
     
    compar, Sep 16, 2004 IP
  8. Mel

    Mel Peon

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    Hi Bob
    Can you show anything to support the idea that relevancy of links affects rankings?
     
    Mel, Sep 17, 2004 IP
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    I would happily swap links with you both (Jenny and Vertex) :) PM me if interested.

    Does that fact that Google has an allinancor : function not mean that they are somewhat interested in relevant links?
     
    Weirfire, Sep 17, 2004 IP
  10. murugan

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    To rank higher Only PR wont help. The main thing is backlinks with keywords as Anchor Text. So start hunting good backlinks.

    Most of the mistakes done by newbies are they simply tries to get ranking for very tough keywords.

    for eg : web hosting. Instead try to rank high locally, i.e., "Web Hosting Pakistan" or "Pakistan Web Hosting"

    Use digitalpoints keyword sugestion tool to finalize your keywords.

    Good luck
     
    murugan, Sep 20, 2004 IP
  11. compar

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    I'm not sure what you mean by "relevancy of links". I am not necessarily implying that the link must be from a thematically related page if that is what you mean. I mean simply that the anchor text is used by Google to determine what the target page is about, or relevant to.

    The best examples of the power of anchor text convincing Google that the target page must be relevant for that phrase, are the famous Google Bombs like "miserable failure". This anchor text is used by a lot of sites, and linked to George W Bush's official White House biography, still delivers that site as #1 in the SERPs for a search on "miserable failure".

    How can you possibly explain that, short of the power, and importance, of anchor text in Google's relevancy algorithms?
     
    compar, Sep 21, 2004 IP
  12. bobmutch

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    vertex: If you want ranking as it high search engine results position then get numerous relevant keyword anchored links. If you want PageRank then get links for sites with high PageRank.
    TwisterMc: PagePank is not broken and it is update regularly. We may have up to 4 or 5 PageRank updates in the last 91 days. While we have not had a toolbar display PR update, we did have a Google Directory display update on Aug 10th.
    PageRank is alive and well. And while Google have dozens of engineers working to improve every aspect of Google on a daily basis, PageRank continues to provide the basis for all of Googles web search tools.

    Mel: "Can you show anything to support the idea that relevancy of links affects rankings?" Yes it is a fact that Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query.

    That is to say that Google takes into consideration more than on-page items when ranking a page, it takes into consideration the content of the pages linking to it. This is what we call relevance links.
     
    bobmutch, Sep 21, 2004 IP
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    Let's see some proof Bobmutch. Otherwise you're just blowing wind out your ass.
     
    compar, Sep 21, 2004 IP
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    compar: The following quote is from a fairly reliable source that I respect and I accept it for what it says.

    "Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query."

    I realize this is not proof but the quote is from what I consider a reliable source.
     
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    Hello Mel.
    >Can you show anything to support the idea that relevancy of links affects rankings?
    It doesn't appear to have much effect currently, but the majority seem to think it will in the future.

    Personally, I'm trying to get as many relevant links as possible so I don't get caught in a florida-type update in the future.
     
    quadcity, Sep 21, 2004 IP
  16. bobmutch

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    quadcity: There seems to be lots of people that think relevant links have more rank weight. There are a number of people that hold that Google search engine takes into consideration not only a pages content but the contents of the pages it links to. If Google does take into consideration the contents of the pages that you have links from that this surely means that relevant links carry more ranking weight.
     
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  17. Mel

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    And there are just as many or more who think that the relevancy of the page the link comes from has no effect on the rankings.

    Try a test. Find four pages that will link to you with anchor text two which are ontopic with your page and have those pages link to you. Once your rankings settle then change the links with identical anchor text links from the site which is not relevant and see if your rankings drop.
     
    Mel, Sep 22, 2004 IP
  18. bobmutch

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    Mel: Na I don't need to do a test. I just take Googles word for it that when they say that they go "far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query."
     
    bobmutch, Sep 22, 2004 IP
  19. Mel

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    Good luck with relying on what Google tells you as a basis for SEO.
     
    Mel, Sep 22, 2004 IP
  20. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Great research, Bobmutch!

    How about an attempt to read all the serious whitepapers, patents etc. instead of limiting your research to the G guidelines and FAQ's?
     
    T0PS3O, Sep 22, 2004 IP