How about France?

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    France is know to support Armenian Allegaions of Genocide on every political ground. When the Turkish goverment suggests leaving it to the historians to reveal what has really happend, French politicians do not seem to think so. However below is a news regarding Algeria deaths (supposingly around 60,000). See how the belowed French politicians respond to the allegations...

    France Won't Apologize for Algeria Deaths

    ALGIERS, Algeria - France called for improved ties with Algeria but refused to take responsibility Wednesday for the deaths of thousands of people in an uprising against the French occupiers 60 years ago.

    The violence apparently began during a celebration of the end of World War II on May 8, 1945, when demonstrators in the town of Setif unfurled an Algerian flag banned by the French. As police began confiscating the flags, the crowds turned on the French, killing about two dozen of them.

    The uprising spread and the response by French colonial troops grew increasingly harsh in the weeks ahead, including bombardments of villages with a war ship. Algerians say some 45,000 people may have died. Figures in France put the number of Algerian dead at about 15,000 to 20,000.

    President Abdelaziz Bouteflika on Saturday compared French methods in the "massacres" to those used by Nazi Germany and asked France to make a "gesture ... to erase this black stain."

    Bouteflika said his country had waited for years for France to acknowledge acts committed during its occupation. France ruled Algeria from 1830 until 1962 and finally left after a brutal seven-year war.

    French Foreign Ministry's secretary of state, Renaud Muselier, said here that the truth is still not known over what happened.

    "The day that the truth is established by historians, we can qualify the facts," Muselier, told reporters here. "But we must move forward with cooperation between the two countries."

    "Each of the two sides has its view of these events. For Algerians, it was a war of colonization and for the French it was a war."

    Paris and Algiers have been making a special push to improve ties and France reaffirmed Tuesday that it wants to conclude a friendship treaty with Algeria by year's end.

    In Paris, Foreign Ministry spokesman Jean-Baptiste Mattei said both sides must "examine and overcome the past, including the most painful pages of the colonial period and the war of Algeria."


    I Think , this shows how two-faced and hypocritical the French are. They'll do anything to discredit Turkey :sigh:

    Keep in mind that France was a part of the Allies and therefore fighting the Central Powers. It is natural to muster up some nonsense to discredit your enemies but this so-called Armenian Genocide thing is full of shit (pardon my language). We also have to consider that the Ottoman Empire was falling apart and if the enemies of the Emrpire could some how create discourse among the many ethnic subjects in the Empire, guess what could happen? That's right the ol' "divide and conquer" tactic.
    Long story short, these fairy tales are nothing more than than anti-Ottoman/Turkish propaganda with the intention of eradicating... guess who?

    Everyone bitches on and on about the "Armenian Genocide" and "ethnic problems" in Turkey all the time, but no one ever speaks of the events in Algeria, the Yir Yoront of Australia, the Native Americans, the African's, the Indians or the Sami(Lapps).
     
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    leet Notable Member

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    Political games stink.. Hmm, what about Algerian genocide France?

    Comment un Genocide a Fait?

    Expliquez - Nous la France!


    English meaning;

    How to make a genocide?

    Tell us France!

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    northpointaiki Guest

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    Not to Armenians.

    I never understand posts that try to explain one issue by saying, "yeah, but look at..." Pointing out hypocrisy - what does it yield? Isn't a bad a bad, a good or good, on the merits, and not by reference to other things?

    If you feel Ataturk's policies were one of protection for the Republic, and not a genocidal campaign, support your position.

    If you feel that the Algerian war was a justifiable act in support of a nascent nationalist movement, support your position.

    Every Western democracy is a cauldron of good and bad - and hypocrisy is the stew. How does this help move your point forward?
     
    northpointaiki, Oct 12, 2006 IP
  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    This is completely untrue.

    People are constantly whining about each and every one of those events.

    It seems that you can't just massacre tens of thousands of people without all sorts of people being all sorts of whiny about it.

    There are over six billions humans on this planet -- it's not as if there is a shortage!
     
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    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    Is it just me or does your comment seem a little insensitive?
     
    BRUm, Oct 13, 2006 IP
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