Its understandable? Not if you fully support freedom of speech. KalvinB, please define fascist. I suppose you do not support the US governments efforts to take down the Al Quida web sites either ?
Since when is "right" and "wrong" defined by whether or not it is "understandable." Seriously...think. So now you're telling us you can't tell the difference between inciting violence and racism. Besides thinking you have a "right" to shut people up. Since you've decided you have a right to dictate what people can say, that would make you a fascist.
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Inciting violence and racism very often goes hand in hand. You know that the acts made possible by racism kills do you ? But I suppose its up to you to decide the scale of what is bad enough to sensor. One more thing, in my country racism is illegal. I don`t know about the US, but I suppose its not illegal there. That could make a lot of people feel like "former criminals" because they followed the rules under the US apartheid just 50 years ago and it would not be fair to them.
What "acts made possible by racism?" Here in reality there are countless justifications for murder. Should we outlaw religion and atheism as well? Then we should outlaw politics because that enables murder as well. Most racism is just rhetoric which doesn't hurt anyone. All you've given us are empty accusations against a company. You have yet to provide any concrete examples of "racist" web-sites that you think should be taken down. The only dangerous speech I see here is yours. You're badmouthing a company based on your accusations without evidence. Here in the US you could be sued by that company for defamation. It's up to the elected government and the voters. In the US you can't violate the First Amendment unless the speech directly causes harm. Until you provide evidence that this company actually hosts racist web-sites, this entire thread is just your attempt to falsely defame a company. And even if they do host racist web-sites you have failed to show that it is illegal. You claim it's illegal in your country but you also claimed you had a right to shut down racist sites. So obviously you have no idea what you're talking about. This company is located in Denmark so what are their laws against racism that you think you "have a right" to shut down racist sites? Demark obviously believes in Free Speech because they allowed the "racist" Muhammed cartoons to be published. That's why a lot of people have respect for them but I see you as a spineless jerk. http://www.out-law.com/page-2553 "Unfortunatly" Denmark doesn't have to follow the laws of Norway. So this entire thread is retarded. Who are you to tell citizens of Denmark what to do?
Its a paragraph in our law that is called "the racism paragraph" and you can go to jail for spreading racism through media. This is decided by the elected government of course. Why do you want to know the site ? Its not relevant in this discussion. Are you going to decide if its racist enough to sensor now ? Anyway the site is norgespatriotene.org . I am not going to translate the site for you. Edit: thanks kelvin for changing your post after I answer.
Look, I can appreciate the fact that you're against racism but I do believe you need to learn when to pick your battles. This might be one you just need to walk away from.
I can stop it here stating that I will do what I can to use the norwegian law shutting the racists up. And kelvinb`s example of Tore Tvedt is a very good example of what we can and will do here.
Here's a hint: Norweigen law only applies in Norway. Here's another one, free on me, Tore Tvedt was an exception to the rule according to the article. Usually Norway doesn't enforce the racism laws. It doesn't say what his site was exactly but considering it's rare to prosecute it was probably more than just rhetoric he was posting. I have no idea what the site is saying so I can't say if it's "racist" or not.
Sounds like you are racist against anyone who is racist. How does that make you any better? Would it feel right if you were banned for saying bad things about racists? Though I think racism is stupid if somebody truly believes in it, I wouldn't ever want to take away their right to speak their beliefs. Whenever I think of that, I think of what it would be like if someone could take away my right to talk about my own Christian faith because it may offend someone. But then again, I've always lived in the land of free speech. Maybe we have a bit of a different viewpoint that can't be undone with a simple disscussion. But that's also why I don't think there's anything to fear from rascists anymore. It's something that has got to be handed down from generation to generation, or it just won't really spread well.
I am happy that I live in a country where racism is illegal. I can clearly see that you don`t know what impact racism can have in a country with only 4 million people. Its about the population of Los Angeles. Regarding free speech in Norway, I cannot think of one example of censorship of anything unless it is racism or terror. Free speech is never an issue in Norway. Since kalvinB mentioned them before, also know that the muhammed drawings published in a norwegian news paper was later defended by the norwegian government.
Right on the spot, feelings in all aspects. It goes for the racists, it goes for me. Probably you too. And despite all the things you have called me in this thread I will let you end the discussion with that words.