Hostility between British and American military leaders

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by polite, Nov 24, 2009.

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    An interesting piece of news.. just imagine what will be US military behaviour with locals if they can't even respect their allies.




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    #2

    like master and slave, there is no special relation, between a poodle and its owner,
    yes, the poodle does need to obey its master!

    and mercenary armies . don't bother about such small things anyway!
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Put 150,000 boots on the ground and the equipment to back them up and earn your say. Other than that, quit whining and do your job.
     
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    That's disturbing to read... but not too surprising. I don't know how we're going to be able to change that culture.
     
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    #5
    exactly the same attitude which OP is referring to!
     
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    More like a small group. They share camps in the army so it is quite uncommon to not have them talk with each other. Afterall, it's the American war, the American way.

    So I agree quit whining and start winning!
     
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    So being disrespectful to the allies is the American way ?

    It is quite interesting that the article is referring to the top brass of British Army, so there must be some substantial problem in the attitude of USA towards British Allies!
     
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    When you get on the front lines, you will see for yourself what is true and what is not.
     
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    #9
    don't you think that these British soldiers who are complaining were in fact from the 'front line' :rolleyes:

    the typical (arrogant) response from Oabamnation and you, would be a good gauge for anyone to judge that how the amricans treated British in Iraq
     
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    Not as big of a problem as you would like it to be I'm sure.

    By the way, from a purely financial perspective, there is no situation I can think of where the guy with 100 shares in a company gets the same voting power as the guy who has 100,000 shares. It isn't disrespect, it isn't arrogance, its called skin in the game.

    I can appreciate that you dislike the position Britain and the US share on Palestine, but trying to blow up disagreements on the war management in Iraq into something more is just silly. America and Britain have been strong ally's and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. Oh, and your buddy Gordy is on his way out, so I wouldn't expect a kinder gentler Britain when it comes to Palestine.
     
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    Yeah cause we're called amricans. :rolleyes:

    Keep on crying. We all know you're full of anti-civilization views.
     
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    #12
    Did I say that amricans are mistreating the British ? they are saying it themselves .. do you think your allies are anti-civilization for bringing this up ?


    @Obamanation

    it is not good to blow things out of proportion, likewise it is not a good idea to down play stuff
     
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    #13
    You attribute that artical to the entire Brit military? LOL. I know soldiers in their military that have a profound respect for ours, and likewise folks in ours that respect theirs.

    Buy a book and read a little about Montgomery's strained relationship with Patton (and Ike, and Bradley, and just about everyone else in our Army down to the lowest private) in WW2. Joint operations always end up with frayed relations here and there. Check out the joint op stories from the Napoleanic wars. This scenario is as old as joint operations themselves. It may feed your vanity to think this is evidence of something else, but mostly it's evidence you aren't gonna pass any history tests. :)
     
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    #14
    Is the WW2 the only standard you follow? don't you think world has evolved a bit since that time ?

    just like the ones pointed in the article, you guys too are so high headed that can't offer a simple word of sympathy for your allies all you have is is a 'deal with it' attitude
     
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    Read before replying. WW2 isnt even the only war mentioned in the post. I also mentioned serving members of both militaries and the Napoleonic Wars..

    As for "the world has evolved"... human nature is still human nature. Geo or ethnic based animosities among joint commands is as old as the practice of joint ops.

    Forget WW2 if you wish... read Homer. The facts remain consistent across time. If there were no disgruntled guys or turf conflicts in joint ops it'd be a miracle.
     
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    huh! Napoleonic Wars, homer happened even before WW2
    so your other standards are even more pathetic than the 1st standard tha you mentioned i.e. WW2

    anyway, fine, you can continue to enjoy your medieval practices
    I have in fact no problem, even if you continue to treat your British allies as your personal servants
     
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    #17
    Again, read before replying. I also mentioned there are current serving soldiers from both armies that DO respect each other.

    You draw broad conclusions from a small sample because it supports your preconceived opinion that US = Evil & Arrogant. I simply pointed out that similar animosities to those expressed by the Brit quoted are common in joint ops since, ohhh, foerever... and do not necessarily represent the opinion of all in their military, nor do the individuals he dealt with represent everyone in ours.

    If I got poor service in a roadside diner in Boise Idaho it doesnt naturally follow that all people in Boise are jerks, much less all in Idaho or the US in general. It doesnt even indicate that everyone in the same diner got poor service... they may have had a perfectly fine experience notwithstanding the treatment I perceived as poor. It could even be that the problem wasnt the service I received, maybe I was the one that got surly with the people serving and they responded in kind.

    Sorry to point out the flaw in your universal conclusion drawn from a small sample, but so far you're proving you couldn't pass classes in either Stat or History. Good luck when you hit college.
     
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    #18
    so when someone gets a poor service in a area, do you point to him and say

    'hey, this area has been giving poor service since time of Adam, they also gave poor service in 18th century, so you can't complain

    or do you tell him
    'yes, it is bad, they should improve' ?
     
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    Not sure if you're being obtuse or just have a reading disability, but either way... see existing replies.
     
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    #20
    All is see here is bigotry by certain members as their 'proud nationalism' has taken over control of their (already limited) senses

    why do you fail to condemn this treatment ? why do you need to find logic's to justify it ?
    it was done by romans, it was done by Napoleon ..it always happens in war ...blah ..blah ...
     
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