Honor killings, Apartheid, and Modern Day India

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Obamanation, Dec 20, 2010.

  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Gworld, you represent the classic flaw in liberal thinking. You imagine a world without rules, and then try to live as if that world is reality. The only problem is, things that work in a world without rules simply do not work in a world with rules. I'm not the one who enforces the rules. I'm not even the one who made the rules. I'm just one of the guy's who consistently gives your type the beat down while operating within those rules. I cant explain it, I wont apologize for it, it simply is what it is. I can appreciate your efforts to prevent companies from defining the rules and providing their own defenses against black hat scammers(theives) and anarchists like our friend Abhinav(Helvetii). I can appreciate your efforts to defy the rules like our friend Assange. Nevertheless, until anarchy overtakes us, and there are still rules, your thieving little friend will be subject to them and I will be happy to aid in their enforcement(at no small amount of personal pleasure I might add).


    You've clearly missed my base logic. This thread is entirely about apartheid that still exists against more than 20% of the Indian population. Election of the prime minister is but one symptom of that apartheid. The election of a Dalit prime minister will much less mean the end of apartheid in India, than the election of a black president meant the end of racial prejudice in America. It will simply be a step in the right direction. A step which appears to be a ways off still.

    Believe it or not, I am with you here. Women are the single largest group of people it is still 100% legitimate to discriminate against in America. Even though their presence in our board rooms has increased dramatically in the last couple decades, they are paid less for the same job(even after sexually discriminating maternity leave[men cant get pregnant]). It is a much more difficult prejudice to defeat than skin color or ethnicity because, simply put, women have tits, a vagina, can bear children, and don't have a penis. In other words, there are very real differences between men and women. Nevertheless, there is no excuse for paying a woman less for the same job, and it is a problem that is, and needs to be addressed. It seems I can acknowledge prejudices the USA still struggles with, where as you have no problem shrugging off 160 million people who are treated like slaves. Why is that?

    It would seem the Americans(Irish, chinese, italians, English, Spanish, etc) were too busy stepping on them in an effort to take their land to let them have a shot at leadership in the country they originally possessed. It would also seem that we are busily shoving casino licenses, federal land grants, and state subsidies in their direction to make up for the sins of the past. I know you weren't trying to imply there was some difference between the USA and Canada on this front, so lets get down to the brass tacks. Do we still have racially related problems from our rough and tumble beginnings? Absolutely. Do we still discriminate against more than 20% of our population? Absolutely not.

    We've had 44 president's in all, with a person of Kenyan decent as our most recent and most significant in terms of overcoming racial prejudice. I have no doubt one day we will have a President Rubio, followed by a President Sununu, followed by a President Tran, followed by a President Jindal(All Republican Senators and Congressman by the way). Considering the representation each candidate has of the voting population, it will take a while. As I pointed out earlier, a much different situation than in India where the majority are oppressed by a few.


    Please continue. I never tire of your idiocy.
     
    Obamanation, Dec 24, 2010 IP
  2. miscsoft

    miscsoft Peon

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    we already had a dalit, muslim, sikh etc etc as presidents. the current president is a lady. now the post of president here is more of a constitutional body, but thats symbolic and should fall in the "step in the right direction" category, isnt it. the post of prime minister is more or less "reserved" for the gandhi family (given the fact most of the time since independence the seat of power is held by the indian national congress). that "reservation" also applied for the italian born sonia gandhi too (who married the ex pm, late rajiv gandhi) but then she choose not to rule this unruly place. her son (rahul gandhi) is being groomed to be the next pm. and not to forget, a guy named firoz gandhi (faredoon/khan) married the late indira gandhi (ex pm and mother of rajiv gandhi). firoz was a parsi (of iranian decent).

    the direction in right steps is more than symbolic in india. for example schools and colleges have seats reserved for dalits/tribals where they get highly discounted or free education. a substantial part of the govt jobs are reserved for the dalits/tribals.

    discrimination on the basis of caste is a rare in the cities. there may be cases in the villages but then that too is fading fast, and perpetrators are brought to books. but then its only human to discriminate, be it based on religion, caste, color, sect, gender, rich/poor, fat/slim or whatever, isnt it.
     
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  3. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    LOL ;)

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    Not just a woman PM way back in 1960's, the current speaker of the parliament house is a dalit woman in addition to the leader of the opposition being a woman in addition to the leader of the ruling coalition who declined the PM seat being an Italian born (to Italian parents) woman which is in addition to the current President being a woman. All this is also in addition to our parliament passing a constitutional amendment bill with a thumping majority of 186:1 giving women 33% reservation in all legislative bodies, when it comes into force 1 million seats in village councils, city councils, state legislatures and nation legislatures will be reserved for women for 15 years. Where is US in this regard? Yeah sure we have embarrassing Americans like ThePeoplesSeo who have gone on record to say that they'll not let a woman become president because they don't have "balls" to do what it takes to be president and if woman becomes president they'll "fuck up the country" and "be bullied by war monger generals". And then Obamanation comes and spews a few insults at hillary clinton for being a "loudmouthed bitch" who "bullies her husband". Oh! The bigotry and sexism!

    Yes you do. Go read the first page again.

    Just a moment back it was 20% now its the majority being oppressed, I couldn't have done the job of beating your arguments to the ground better.
     
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  4. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    LoL. Thanks, but already had the info. Having worked in fraud detection for one of the largest US banking concerns, let me assure you they have time to waste on you. They will especially like the information in your link which talks about keeping the transaction amount below their detection thresholds. ATM rip offs work in exactly the same way. We would filter out transactions under $100, and what do you know, within 8 weeks, all the thieves (like yourself) would start doing $80 transactions. I'm sure that they will be thrilled to know whatever loopholes you are exploiting.

    I'm sure they will be happy to know how much you are taking them for. Thanks for the info.

    So you have a variety of other criminal enterprises. Can't say I'm suprised. I'm sure they will be thrilled to hear about all that as well.

    20% represents the lowest caste only. The entire system is really set up to cater to the upper caste, which means everyone underneath is experiencing bigotry. That alone is probably a driving force in your elections.
     
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  5. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    Just buttin in whit some tech advice . Although I'm not 100% sure of Helvetti's BH method it's quite simple . It does require a lot of human interaction but all you need is a website and free time . It also really easy to do . OFC the part whit working 5 hours per week is bullshit for a novice . But whit a good PC it's easy as pie .

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    ApocalypseXL, Dec 25, 2010 IP