Honor killing (murder) is accepted in islam

And I live among a Christian community, and if you claim you are one of them, then you sir are a disgrace.
Go learn some manners, your topic is biased and aiming only at one thing. Be scared of your life once your dead pal.

But they wonder that there has come to them a warner from among themselves, and the disbelievers say, "This is an amazing thing. When we have died and have become dust, [we will return to life]? That is a distant return."
We know exactly how the earth diminishes of them, and with Us is a retaining record.

 

Look in your own backyard before your neighbours for the culprits. I believe radical Islamists destroyed your book well before the radical Christians came near.

 

Please prove your statement if you wish to speak to me like that.
Destroyed? We Muslims agree not one word has been changed since the day it was revealed over 1600+ years ago
Nothing has changed. It's science has been the same explaining the planet orbits, the sun, the moon, the mountains, the oceans, things a person living in the Middle East would never in his life see, are spoken about, what are you talking about? The book's poetry in Arabic is what brings us so close to it, it speaks to us. I wish you knew Arabic so I can prove my facts even more, everything rhymes and the power is heart trembling. Gives you the goosebumps really. But back to what I was saying, Christians know for a fact the Bible has been changed, because I was in a Catholic school and even my religion teachers who were Christian said so as well. You'll find not one Muslim who will say our book has been changed. No one can ever say such a thing. So good luck trying to find a fault in the book because it'll drive you insane. All I say to you is please find a fact and good luck

 

You may well all agree...but that doesn't make you right.

Really?? What about Hajjaj bin Yusuf, governor of Iraq from 694-714 CE, who inserted more than 1,000 alifs into the Qur'anic text....that means that it has been changed from the original. There is also the fact that, like other early Arabic literature, the Qur'an was written without any diacritical marks, vowel symbols or any guide to how it should be read. It now does contain those things...thus it has been changed from the original.

 

What was man created from, blood, clay, dust, or nothing?

"Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).
"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).
"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

 

Lmao Added Alifs. Do you know what that means? He added one letter your saying, that is complete nonsense. That would destroy the words, every word is in Arabic, as in all arabic languages would understand so there is no way hes adding A arabic letter because it would be like thizs with the z being extra. Get it ?

And no it didnt have little marks on it, all these do is extend the word from word to woooooord when read so it could sound like poetry(thus, the prophet used to recite it to his followers like that). And you are correct, because we all agree, doesnt mean its right. But prove me wrong. Again this was a fail attempt buddy. I already see the ignorance because you have never bothered reading it yourself to judge it. I at least read the gospel/bibles, and have read the Quran myself. I chose the better guidance that assures me when I'm dead and become dust, I know my resurrection's destination.

And We did certainly created the heavens and earth and what is between them in six days, and there touched Us no weariness. So be patient, [O Muhammad], over what they say and exalt [ God ] with praises of your Lord before the rising of the sun and before its setting. And [in part] of the night exalt Him and after prostration. And listen on the Day when the Caller will call out from a place that is near - The Day they will he ar the blast [of the Horn] in truth. That is the Day of Emergence [from the graves]. Indeed, it is We who give life and cause death, and to Us is the destination. On the Day the earth breaks away from them [and they emerge] rapidly; that is a gathering easy for Us. We are most knowing of what they say, and you are not over them a tyrant. But remind by the Qur'an whoever fears My threat.

And (O Muhammad), follow the revelation sent unto you, and be patient till God gives judgement. And He is the Best of judges.

And thus have We sent it (the Qur’ân) down to be a judgement of authority in Arabic. Were you (O Muhammad) to follow their (vain) desires after the knowledge which has come to you, then you will not have any Walî (protector) or Wâq (defender) against God.

God spoke to Muhammed through this miracle book, if you were to only understand but I doubt you would ever.

 

I have read most of religious books and those are all old BS. Muhammed was a smart guy and he could have pretended to hear God to make people to follow him but if he really heard voices and saw things then it proves that he was suffering of some form of mental illness.

 

Yeah..I get it! Your claim that "nothing has changed" has been proved wrong. Alifs have been added, therefore it has been changed. Punctuation has been added, therefore it has been changed.

I just did..

Well that's where you are wrong 'buddy' because, although I am atheist, I have been interested in world religions for over 40 years. I have readt the Qur'an, the Bible. the Guru Granth Sahib, the Bhagavad Gita, the Egyptian Book Of The Dead, the Rig Veda, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Elder Edda, the Enuma Elish and Hesiod's Theogony.

Believe me...I understand. 'God' spoke to Muhammed through the miracle book called the 'Qur'an'..in the same way that 'God' spoke to Moses through the miracle book called the 'Bible' and in the same way that 'God' spoke to Joseph Smith through the miracle book called the 'Book of Mormon'. So I do understand. I understand that every religion that has ever existed has claimed truth by way of it's 'miraculous books'.

 

Lol to me be my path and to you be yours

 

I'm talking about the radical Muslims who used your holy book as an excuse to commit murder as well as other atrocities commited in the name of the quran. That phenomenon has destroyed the esteem of the Muslim's holy book in most peoples minds, as much as anything the Christians have done to taint their bible teachings.

 

Evidence of that ...

 

You are taking the destroyed image of this beautiful religion.
Ladies and Gentlemen, you guys are living being told constant lies everyday watching television.
Why are Muslims discriminated against in almost every single way? Video Games, Movies, Music etc.
They targeted us worshipers along time ago, and they ruined our every possible aspect of an image that we had.
All we do is pray 5 times a day, read this glorious book everyday, fast for the holy month requested, pay charity and teach good deeds to even those who are as hard headed as a rock like some of you no offense. I seek refuge from him on the eternal day we will rise. And have no doubt that he will make us all rise again someday when were dead

Did We fail in the first creation? But they are in confusion over a new creation. And We have already created man and know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than [his] jugular vein

It is He who made the sun a shining light and the moon a derived light and determined for it phases - that you may know the number of years and account [of time]. God has not created this except in truth. He details the signs for a people who know. Indeed, in the alternation of the night and the day and [in] what God has created in the heavens and the earth are signs for a people who fear God. Indeed, those who do not expect the meeting with Us and are satisfied with the life of this world and feel secure therein and those who are heedless of Our signs.... And when affliction touches man, he calls upon Us, whether lying on his side or sitting or standing; but when We remove from him his affliction, he continues [in disobedience] as if he had never called upon Us to [remove] an affliction that touched him. Thus is made pleasing to the transgressors that which they have been doing.

 

I'll take that as you not being able to refute my claim then shall I?

 

Don't believe your eyes.

Muslims in the US are not discriminated against, unless you feel laws protecting the rights of women are a discrimination against Islam.

The people tarnishing the name of Islam are the ones who claim it is ok to kill women and children in the name of Islam. There is a person on this very forum that feels it would be well and good if Israel and Iran annihilated each other because their religious beliefs do not conform with his idea of Islam. Even worse, none of the other Muslims on this forum seem to care that he says these things as a Muslim. The ugly picture of Islam that is being painted is sadly being painted by Muslims themselves.

 

You people make me sick. You think those are real Muslims who do holloywood movements like that? Those are radical groups sponsored and paid for by countries that are shitting out oil. You dont know what your talking about. These are simple steps to destroy our image and try to make us look embarrassed but I know where my resting place is when I expire, do you?

 

For your morons -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=221eZLkV-rk

 

[video=youtube;-vs1golFGTo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vs1golFGTo&feature=player_detailpage#t=32s[/video]

 

Oh yea really proves to me that a MUSLIM did it.
By the way, definition of a Muslim: TO BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & SUBMIT TO HIM.
Now if I believe this whole world was created and as my lord says in this glorious guiding book, why would I kill myself or better yet other people? It makes no sense being the fact I know of my great meeting with the Almighty one day

[He] who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed - and He is the Exalted in Might, the Forgiving.

Then do they not reflect upon the Quran? (i.e. its meanings and its objective) If it had been from [any] other than God, they would have found within it much contradiction.

The word is already proved true. As a Muslim, I can only wish your path gets cleared up and you wake up from this "matrix" your living in. Here is an example of why you should understand me better. We are only promised an outcome upon being patient with ignorant fools that blast away without seeking the knowledge.

And We did certainly create the heavens and earth and what is between them in six days, and there touched Us no weariness.
So be patient, [O Muhammad], over what they say and exalt [ God ] with praise of your Lord before the rising of the sun and before its setting,

You think the sky was constructed on its own? Here
Have they not looked at the sky above them - how We structured it and adorned it and [how] it has no rifts?

Earth? Here
And the earth - We spread it out and cast therein firmly set mountains and made grow therein [something] of every beautiful kind,

The sun & the moon in an orbit? Here
The sun and the moon [move] by precise calculation, And the stars and trees prostrate. And the heaven He raised and imposed the balance.


Coincidence why these seas don't mix with each other? Here
He released the two seas, meeting [side by side]; Between them is a barrier [so] neither of them transgresses. So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny? From both of them emerge pearl and coral.

The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two].

Wait, what? The moon was split, where?


So leave them, [O Muhammad]. The Day the Caller calls to something forbidding, Their eyes humbled, they will emerge from the graves as if they were locusts spreading, Racing ahead toward the Caller. The disbelievers will say, "This is a difficult Day." The people of Noah denied before them, and they denied Our servant and said, "A madman," and he was repelled. So he invoked his Lord, "Indeed, I am overpowered, so help." Then We opened the gates of the heaven(skies) with rain pouring down. And caused the earth to burst with springs, and the waters met for a matter already predestined. And We carried him on a [construction of] planks and nails, Sailing under Our observation as reward for he who had been denied. And We left it as a sign, so is there any who will remember?


I state facts, all you guys present to me is BS. Again, if you take ur time and read, I'm sure ur heart gives in to it. But you are a transgressing people and seek only the pleasures of this worldly life. While we on the other hand, know that this life is no more than test and we must pass. Salam alaykoom(meaning peace be upon you, even if you do think of me as a retard for simply believing in his signs).

 

I have nothing against my country accepting immigrants or refugees but something is seriously wrong when we take in people who even after living in Canada still believe that one guy can split the moon in two and earth survives. We should have some laws against importing morons.