Homeless Iraq Veterans Bring Total Homeless Vets to 200,000

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    Iraq Veterans Homeless

    There are about 200,000 homeless vets in the United States.

    How can these people be sent far away - to fight and maybe die for their country and then when they get back they are abandoned?
     
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  2. latehorn

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    Think posetive. When they are in Iraq, they get shelters at night. Going from a homeless situation to a warzone is much easier then going from a perfect life to a warzone.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    That would mean almost all are homeless after serving in the war in Iraq.
    Hard to believe. Really!

    Anyway, even one homeless vet is bad enough and deserves public attention and help.
     
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    What about the oppurtunity to help their own country in a war? That will make them feel needed and not useless.
     
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    'bout 40 percent are Vietnam veterans' and most of the others didn't serve under a war. Ten percent for both Iraq wars.

    Not hard to believe that. It's not like you're guaranteed a living many, many, years after service.

    I remember my army buddy saying that you don't go to the military to get rich. And if you get out you have to get an education, and I'm sure many of the folk that went to vietnam had some issues to deal with.
     
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    Is that the only thing people think about nowadays? What happened to our society? What's wrong in belonging to the middle class?
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    I remember reading something that said that over 65% of US homeless adults were veterans.

    That's pretty sickening! :mad:


    "Support the Troops!"
    <----- Buy a sticker for your SUV and then tell them to F. off when they actually need something.
     
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    chulium Well-Known Member

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    It is sickening, but perhaps some of them are like vietnam vets or even WW2 vets that are in assisted living homes? Some might consider that homeless.

    Yet, it is hard to believe... not sure if I believe it myself entirely.
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    Well, according to this it's 1/3.

    http://www.va.gov/pressrel/hmlssfs.htm

    (not sure where I got 65% from) :rolleyes:

    Still terrible - IMO. Especially considering they're given the worst healthcare too.
     
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    They probably weren't homeless before they entered the military. It isn't like the army is pulling people off the street

    Anyway, America Online is taking care of them
     
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    i can understand those who serve under a war 've got problem. The war mess up their mind.

    but those who didn't serve, that's their own problem....
     
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    America Online To Build Three Million Home Pages For The Homeless

    I thought they are homeless and not homepageless :confused: :confused:
     
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    Not sure if it includes military personel

     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    They are not abandoned at all. No one pushes them out the door. They are free to re-enlist or not. There is no guaranteed paycheck when you leave the military, unless you spend twenty years and elect to retire after that.

    After two enlistments, I decided not to re-enlist, but to go out on my own and explore other options life had to offer. I had a wife and three kids. And there wasn't much I could do prior to my actual departure date either. I sent out resumes, watched classifieds, saved some money and prepared for the departure. I had a job a week after I was out and six weeks later, that company went under and I was on the search again. It wasn't easy and it was very stressful, but the military didn't owe me anything. I made the choice to leave. I ended up going to work for a small company that later became Macromedia.

    They can also claim unemployment benefits. If they go down to their local unemployment office (most every city has one) where the State has listings of jobs, Veterans are given preference. There is no free ride when you leave the military. You have to put forth the effort, like anyone else. No different than if one left the employment of Google and people became homeless. Do you blame Google? Does Google owe everyone that decides to leave it's company a free paycheck for life?
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    Sir, thank you for serving. Now why the hell don't you get off your lazy ass and get a goddamn job!

    [​IMG]
     
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    Many don't have the abilities you have and that's a problem. I think the whole situation isn't even expensive if the right programs are in place. It could even create a string of business and employment channels.
     
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    I understand that people should and need to work hard, but the stats seem to be pretty high, pushing towards the vets. Most in the the homeless position didn't get there because they are lazy, just got stuck in a situation that tends to be hard to get out of.

    As my dad served in vietnam, I know he told me that a lot of his buddies had troubles getting use to civilian life. Being a trained killer and doing so can really mess with your head.
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    It's also kind of hard when you have no limbs. :rolleyes:
     
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    "There are about 200,000 homeless vets in the United States.

    How can these people be sent far away - to fight and maybe die for their country and then when they get back they are abandoned"?

    I don't believe it... Where is the verification? And, even if true, that is so
    because they have opted for that lifestyle...just as many non-vets have.

    Someone much smarter than me once observed that, "War is Hell"! We have
    an all-volunteer military today. Everyone that enlists and takes an oath to
    defend our country and obey his/her superiors' orders is in the same boat.

    Yes, people are killed, wounded and otherwise destroyed in wars... That's
    been so throughout history. That's what warriors do. Personally, I'm sick
    and tired of the bleeding hearts weeping over the 2,500 that have lost
    their lives in Iraq. That's part of what they volunteered to do...

    What's more, many more warriors than that willingly gave up their lives in
    one hour during our Civil War!

    Just in case you think I am hard-hearted toward our military heroes, I was
    the last of seven siblings that willingly served our country in uniform - in a
    20-year period starting just before the infamous raid on Pearl Harbor.

    And, we all deemed it a high honor to expose ourselves to all the risks that
    went with that territory. Surprisingly, though we had a few injuries, all of us
    survived -- both WW II and the Korean Conflict...and beyond.

    Thankfully, none of us ended up on the streets!
     
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  20. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    And look at this bum! Fishing while he should be filling out job applications! :mad:

    [​IMG]
     
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