History Channel Debunks 9/11 "Troofers"

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by GTech, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. dimeadozen

    dimeadozen Guest

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    #21
    You should know to well why - it's called freedom of speech. And individual intuition tells them something doesn't add up!
     
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  2. Caveman

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    #22
    From one of Loriens links:
    Damn! Somebody get this man a tissue :D
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #23
    With freedom of speech comes responsibility. I don't take issue with their right to lie, I take issue with the lie ;)

    You had a point?
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #24
    One tissue for Jimmy, coming up!

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  5. dimeadozen

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    #25
    Yea pretty much you have made the point...

    You feed off the lies and corruption of all aspects of war and have no empathy and sympathy for others that are forced to cross the paths of it, your beliefs amongst many others is what fuels it.
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #26
    That's not a point, that's an opinion. A flawed one at that.

    If that's the best you have for defending "troofers" and their lies, then I feel kind of warm and tingly inside. How about you?
     
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  7. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #27
    Alex Jones summed up the documentary very well; when he made a great point:

    He said that Galileo was jailed because he was saying the earth was round, not flat. Alex Jones said he's telling people the world is round.

    It's too bad that Galileo was persecuted for telling people that the Earth went around the sun; not the other way around. The earth was known to be round since greek times.

    I think that summed it all up for me, right there ;)

    The clunkety clunk lady was kinda funny too. i hope that clip goes on youtube at some point. It proved, beyond a doubt, the entire conspiracy. It was brilliant!
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #28
    That's Jone's ego for ya. That guy's head is swollen beyond belief in making comparisons like that.

    I'm watching it right now. Very good so far.
     
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  9. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #29
    yada yada yada... crazy gang.. yada yada yada.. Gtech... yada yada yada...
    Ohh Man, you and your obsession ;)

    As if you are really looking forward to watch it?
    Didn't you make your mind up that it's just false Govt. propaganda?

    LOL, The same old Alex Jones... A Conspiracy mouth with no knowledge whatsoever
     
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  10. WebdevHowto

    WebdevHowto Peon

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    #30
    What do you know of the interworkings of US government agencies?
     
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    #31
    Obviously not much.. Since I'm neither a part of US govt nor Agencies..

    How is that related to History channel documentary?
     
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  12. WebdevHowto

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    #32
    How were your posts related to the "History channel documentary"?
     
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  13. The Webmaster

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    #33
    this way..

     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #34
    The US government is evil. Bush planned 9/11. We must surrender. The gobment brainwashes people. America sucks. We're losing our freedoms but we don't know which ones. Ron Paul is America's last hope. :rolleyes:

    Now that we have that out of the way...

    The show was very good! The first thirty minutes was more about the background of the conspiracies. At almost the thrity minute mark, all the way to the last minutes of the two hour documentary, the format was:

    Conspiracy: Insert some lunacy here
    Response: Insert rational thinking and facts that debunk [Conspiracy]

    They really spent a lot of time with this. They tracked down numerous people that untruthful "conspirators" tried to dishonestly portray. Surely will upset those who let the likes of alex jones do their thinking for them.

    Jones came across as the nut he is. As did disco avery. They even had deserter korey rowe on there! I couldn't help but laugh at some of the clips they had of these nuts doing "paid conferences" to line their pockets off the victims of 9/11.
     
    GTech, Aug 21, 2007 IP
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    #35
    Lol, I do appreciate the humor. I think it is funny that we are on the opposite side of the fence time and time again. Just know I don't "hate" you, I totally disagree with you but I will still buy you a beer ;)

    Do me a favor and don't hate me either. That won't do either of us any good.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #36
    I've never had the feeling you hate me. I'd gladly have a beer with you. :)
     
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    #37
    I will buy the first round and we can joke about the P&R forum! Watch out though, you might walk away preaching RP!
     
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  18. davewashere

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    #38
    I watched the thing on the History Channel last night. The Loose Change guys all but admitted that they were loose with the facts in the first two versions. The third version will drop all talk of the cell phone calls being made from the planes (in the first two they claimed this was impossible, an assertion that has been thoroughly debunked), and perhaps even more striking is the fact that they are no longer going to claim that the twin towers were brought down by a controlled demolition. That was pretty much the major theme of the first two versions! They are now going to focus a lot more on WTC7, the building that collapsed on 9/11 after burning for 8 hours. Sounds like their theories are losing weight faster than Star Jones.
     
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  19. The Webmaster

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    #39
    In-short, they are ready to give a leg and an arm to prove that this all was a conspiracy...

    They can't leave the opportunity to monetize the huge traffic driven to their sites...
     
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  20. mopacfan

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    #40
    You see, the thing is, that there is always some degree of truth, even in the lies. That's what makes it so hard to tell fact from fiction.

    Here's what I believe:
    NYC: the planes are what brought down the towers. It's simple observation of the engineering in the building and how the planes wiped out the center support columns and the heat weakened the steel, allowing the upper floors to pancake down on themselves. Now, with respect to the planes, I don't have enough information to know if they were flown directly by terrorists or if they were piloted by remote control. They have flown planes of this size by RC on many occasions for crash testing. Who's not to say "they" did not do the same thing here. I don't know. What I do know is that I DON'T trust my government. Especially this administration.

    Pentagon: It was not a large commercial aircraft that struck the building. There is no debris field and the officially released "video" from the security shack does not show anything that looks like a plane.

    The truth is somewhere in between what we're fed in the news, what the government tells us and what really happened.
     
    mopacfan, Aug 21, 2007 IP