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Hijacking domains in Google??!!

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by mopacfan, Sep 16, 2004.

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  1. PRBot.Com

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    #41
    That is not smart Shawn. I can knock any site out of the index really fast.

    Max
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #42
    Hmmm, that would be funny. :) How fast?
     
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  3. hergo

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    #43
    Done. Ill set one up just to see. Im sure a few others will also.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #44
    Okay, let me know if it works...
     
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  5. hergo

    hergo Peon

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    #45
    I shall.

    If it does cause any problems it will be ripped off quickly.

    I've put it on a much smaller site, away from mine, so i'm not sure how effective it would be. But hey, one of my pages should have 10 000 BL's :cool:
     
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  6. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #46
    Of course the back links are just cosmetic. :) I mostly just want to see if it takes my page out of the index. If it does, then I'll be a believer. :)
     
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  7. hergo

    hergo Peon

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    #47
    Yeah cosmetic i know :mad:

    It will be interesting to see if any rankings change with it also. I mean if it registers that that page has the BL's, shouldn't it sort of count for something.

    Really, it shouldn't be any different than if i had that many links going to an internal page on one of my sites. If your site is seen as an "authority", then shouldn't mine also?

    Google would still beleive that the domain had a total of x amount of links going to it wouldn't it?
     
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  8. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #48
    Doubtful... in the case of a HTTP redirect, only the destination URL benefits from the links. The source will display the links with the links command, but that's it (after a BL update). After that, if you no longer point to the destination, the links will still show (until the next BL happens), but Google knows they aren't there internally and you get no ranking bonus. If that were the case, everyone would redirect to www.google.com, then move it to something they wanted to boost. So no, it doesn't work that way. :)

    The only thing it's good for is purely cosmetic where you will have the destination URLs PageRank and links reported for the URL that you were redirecting from (at least until the next update after you stop redirecting).
     
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  9. hergo

    hergo Peon

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    #49
    Makes sense.

    It will be good if Google can fix this paticular "flaw" though. As I said, I don't really want to be forced into frequent updated to the site to prevent their URL appearing under my sites listing, as im sure no body else does either.

    One other thing, i've never seen the redirect link appear in any of my logs as a referrering URL.
     
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  10. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #50
    Not sure about a meta refresh, but an HTTP redirect will never show up as a referrer, because the user's browser passes the page that they were actually on (not the redirect).
     
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    #51
    Interesting.

    Can the meta refresh redirect be blocked somehow?
     
    hergo, Sep 18, 2004 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #52
    Not unless you control the server that the refresh is on. It would be the same as trying to get someone to not link to you.
     
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  13. hergo

    hergo Peon

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    #53
    OK. The new page is in the index.

    It hasnt done anything significant but heres what I was talking about in my sites case. Being in one index but not another.

    Aussie Only Results vs World Wide Results - see the urls that appear

    I know that its due to your site not being in Australia but still. I think its a bug. A small bug - but a bug.

    Maybe it could be used to an advantage by having a site appear in any georgraphical search (ie 'Pages from Australia' or 'Pages from Canada').
     
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    #54
    Ummmm ... that's pretty impressive ... yea, you are top-dog over in Australia - maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I don't think (!) that should be the case - nice demo!
     
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    #55
    That's nuts... I heard about this over at WMW but never actually saw it...

    Could you use that in conjunction with a 302 or something? In other words, get the listing, then redirect to a different site, regardless oif the meta that is on the page in question?

    IE - doubling the redirects... Am I making any sense?
     
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    #56
    If there is no current way to combat being "google-jacked" then I really think this will just happen more, frequently. How many of us have the actual time and resources to pursue a court case against people like these.
     
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    #57
    Just let everyone, it is BS.

    Only the high PR can pass PR to the lower. The Lower can not hijack the higher. I tried it for 2 weeks to hijack a PR8 with a fresh site and an old domain. Both not working. The old domain is on Supplemental Result on google, which means google thinks it is DEAD, no matter if it is meta refresh, 302 or 301.
     
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  18. hergo

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    #58
    See this test. Google has omitted the DP Site and listed mine instead.

    The search is for - Digital Point Solutions hergo

    Its a pages from "The Web" search too.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #59
    Well... actually considering the word hergo isn't on the Digital Point Solutions page, I don't think it really could have knocked it out of the rankings since the Digital Point Solutions page was never there to begin with.
     
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    True. Didn't think too much about that. :rolleyes:
     
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