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Hijacking domains in Google??!!

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by mopacfan, Sep 16, 2004.

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  1. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    #21
    These are the "Black Hats" sites. The content you see on these pages is almost word for word from another site.
     
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  2. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    #22
    The conversation I was referring to and the threads from where I pulled this information are here and here.
     
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  3. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #23
    Do you have an example of any site/page that was knocked out of the index because of them though?
     
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  4. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    #24
    I posted too quick. The domains are in the threads.
     
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  5. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #25
    Well, I just went through both threads, and I only found one example URL, but it was in the index, so I still haven't seen one.
     
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  6. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    #26
    I'll put in a post over there and ask for specifics.
     
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  7. bobmutch

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    #27
    All a person would have to do is make all there internal site links useing "http://www.example.com" instead of just using the file and then encrypt the pages.
    There are products out there that encrypt php file quite well.
    http://www.sourceguardian.com/faq/index.php
     
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  8. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    #28
    "How secure is it?

    We must stress that if you’re going to release something to someone, it’s never going to be completely 100% secure. However, a suitable metaphor to consider might be adding security to your house – with no curtains, anyone can see in; with no locks, anyone can walk in; and with no alarms, anyone can break in unnoticed. However, all these measures to protect your home can be bypassed by skilled individuals. --Source Guardian"
     
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  9. bobmutch

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    ResaleBroker: Ya I read that also and though, that doesn't sound very secure to me.
     
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  10. debunked

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    #30
    I have known a few skills since junior high that allows me to enter most homes fairly quickly. It always scares someone when they lock themselves out and I get them in, in about 5 minutes or less.

    Same thing happens with secure internet, if there is a lock someone can pick it.
    === just hope that someone is like me who doesn't use it to harm anyone ===
     
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  11. bobmutch

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    debunked: LOL, come on get serious. Give you $50 if you can get login to my home page. Like all you can do is run a password program and if they have a stupit password like "password" or "green" or "blue" or what ever. My password of course is not a dictionary word, is long, has numbers and upper case and lower case.

    er, or are you talking getting into people homes where they live. LOL. Now that I believe. That you can hack most people web site home page I don't beleive. LOL.
     
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  12. hergo

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    #32
    So you guys want an example?

    http: //wmdirectory.com/links.php?action=rated&link_id=838

    My site.

    Duplicate content issue. Just recently put a small news feed on the site to try and combat it. Seems to be working to some extent. The site IS back in the index now.

    They use this exact method. If you stop the page from loading before going to the redirect and view the source you will see a single line of code, the meta refresh tag.

    I must say THANKYOU for bringing this to light. I had no idea this is how they were doing it.

    And yes for a while they were inheriting my backlinks, but not PR (maybe because of no PR update).

    Not sure if theyr'e still in Google though but I think i'll be sending a nice email off to them. Oh did that article say something about court?
     
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    #34
    Now that there is proof how do you get Google to take action against them?
     
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  16. hergo

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    No i think it was a free directory submission. I dont have any links back to them.

    I cant find where the link is either. I can find the listing but no sign of where the link actually appears. Any links to my site from theirs SEEM to be pure HTML.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #37
    I'm still confused on what that is proof of? The destination URL is in the index, and as far the back link thing, that's simply the same as a redirect, for example how www.optigold.com shows the same links as www.digitalpoint.com
     
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    #38
    What sseems to be happening in this instance was that it replacing my listing only with certain terms - such as "localworldit". A search for this would result in their listing appearing while my website was NOT in the results.

    While it didn't entirely dump my homepage from the index, it replaced my listing's URL with theirs. It may be the same as optigold and digitalpoint but its not nice when you see someone elses URL underneath your site.

    It also prevented me from using the KW tracker. I had to restrict it to Australia to use it, or enter the suspect url.

    As for proof, it uses the meta refresh tag. What proof do you want?

    Its in the index now, and always was i suppose to a certain extent. But if I didnt put a news feed in and make a few subtle changes a week, who knows?
     
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    #39
    I personally am not a hacker - I didn't say I could, but I am sure the skill can be acquired. I was talking about houses.
     
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    #40
    The "proof" I'm referring to is someone being able to knock a website out of the index (which is what the thread is about I think). As far as I can see, Google is simply treating a meta refresh the same as it treats a HTTP redirect (where it consolidates the links).

    If someone wants to have a stab at knocking www.digitalpoint.com or forums.digitalpoint.com out of the index, be my guest. It would be an interesting experiment to see if it can actually be done or not.
     
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