High PR on a brand new page?????

Discussion in 'SEO' started by adacprogramming, Oct 12, 2006.

  1. #1
    When I add a page to my site, it starts as a PR0. After the next update it moves up to what ever Google thinks it should be.

    How is it that when lets say MSN News (any large site) adds a new page it is automatically a PR 6 or what ever. If you are an athority site, do you get an assumed PR even if no links have been established to the page?

    Just Curious!:)
     
    adacprogramming, Oct 12, 2006 IP
  2. ainmohd

    ainmohd Peon

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    You did mentioned an authority site.

    My 2-cent mind tells me that an authority site is a site already established.

    In order words, an authority site does not suddenly appear.
     
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  3. adacprogramming

    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    An authority site is established, Yes. However I am talking about new pages not sites. When MSN adds a new page, like a News story, it gets an automatic page Rank.
     
    adacprogramming, Oct 12, 2006 IP
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    I noticed that new pages may have PR if the main page of the site has it.
    And these new pages are indexed already
     
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    PR are will be shared among outbound links, so i think that's the reason
     
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  6. TatiAnA

    TatiAnA Active Member

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    I have one page of my site that has 0PR even if it was linked to a PR6. It is actually a list of artists with about 200 internal links. Is this the reason why this page has a zero PR?
     
    TatiAnA, Oct 16, 2006 IP
  7. Jim_Westergren

    Jim_Westergren Notable Member

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    With complex URLs Google can sometimes not handle it and then automatically assigns a PR value based on the PR of the home page. THIS IS NOT THE ACTUAL PR. For example your statcounter login page or hotmail letters. Those have PR in the toolbar but are not even in the index.
     
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  8. adacprogramming

    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like this is probably not duplicatable then. Even if it was, it wouldn't do you any good. :(

    I was wondering if they (sites like MSN) were using some sort of URL recycling routine so that new information was being displayed on old, PRed URLs.

    Interesting examples, I hadn't noticed before.
     
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  9. adacprogramming

    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    Seems possible, Google has stated that it does not like pages with over 100 links on them. I only have a couple pages like that. I just checked none of them have PR either, even though they are as old and well linked as other pages on the site. Maybe just a coincedence?

    Try breaking it in two to three parts and wait a while, see if you get PR.
     
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  10. TatiAnA

    TatiAnA Active Member

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    Will try that, it seems so hard for the programmers to do this since it was proposed 3 months ago and has not yet been done.They are using ASP for this page.
     
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    TatiAnA Active Member

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    I guess you are right. This was mentioned on one thread and others say google means "100 external links" :D Well who knows. I believe though that you have to keep the links less than 100 to get a PR
     
    TatiAnA, Oct 17, 2006 IP
  12. prawin

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    I think pagerank is by no means a reliable source for long term optimization.
    Its the usability which will matter most.
     
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    TatiAnA Active Member

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    It is indeed a useful page @prawin. I have this one page that's been there for a long time, updated frequently, good traffic, and linked to a PR6 but got no PR. The only possibility that i could think that is causing this are the numerous links on this page (around 250 links).
     
    TatiAnA, Oct 18, 2006 IP