HIDDEN Google link popularity secret that we all forget

Discussion in 'Google' started by sparkah, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. technolarity

    technolarity Well-Known Member

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    #21
    never found anything so lame.

    Do you see people linking putting www.google.com in mails ?
    The ratio would be so low that google.com itself would be in spammer category.

    I rank for a lot of keywords and I do not think mail even counts.
    Google does include certain similar char. in blogsearch.
     
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  2. punkaboy

    punkaboy Peon

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    #22
    I think the quality of the incoming links, the quality of website content relativity aka.. original content updated on a semi-constant basis and how long the user stays around - "the bounce rate" - make a big determination on the google rankings.
    I have had no luck with stagnant and/or unoriginal websites, regardless of pagerank. This is the first I have heard of emails affecting rank, but google is always adjusting their playing field, they have the ball and we only get to kick around a little. jusy my two cents
     
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  3. Website Design Perth

    Website Design Perth Peon

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    #23
    Yeah - pass it around. LOL.
     
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  4. IEmailer.com

    IEmailer.com Well-Known Member

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    #24
    About the commenting part of those HIDDEN ranking factors, at the end it's all CONTENT which is THE KING..

    However, based on my very own experience BACKLINKS goes #2 as the QUEEN ;)
     
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  5. sparkah

    sparkah Member

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    #25
    let me respond to this and another email... you cannot build your link popularity by adding www.google.com to an email. You do it by surrounding www.mysite.com with myfavoritekeywords.

    Also, I saw another post where someone mentioned that they

    well... truth is... google cannot spider email. It can ONLY spider GMAIL. Why do you think they started GMAIL? Just to spend their profit on giving you unlimited storage space?

    GOOGLE READS AND ANALYZES AND APPLIES ALL THE DATA IT HAS.

    So to the last comment about what this has to do with Google... Try a large scale email blast to your optin list using your url and the keyword most relevant to you. You WILL jump up in the rankings within 2 days.

    I'm just sharing my gems with you and if you dont wannem I'll go elsewhere! SHEESH! :rolleyes:
     
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  6. technolarity

    technolarity Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Here are the main factors

    1.age
    2.pagerank
    3.relevancy from one site to other

    Forget the other factors.

    you score on the above factors and your site will rank top.

    I follow only these rules to build backlinks and my site ranks top 10 for keywords that gets hundreds of thousands of searches.

    Google cannot index gmail.com , according to its own terms own adsense bots index gmail for ad reasons and not serps.

    Regards
     
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  7. ronmojohny

    ronmojohny Well-Known Member

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    #27
    We do not know everything Google does. I have to believe they can access information in any of the products that they own, including Gmail. If they read Gmail for adwords ads, why not use the data for the SERPs? Could be one of the "dials" they turn once in a while for ranking purposes. Who knows..
     
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  8. Australianfranchises

    Australianfranchises Peon

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    #28
    Yes blog comments, youtube comments are helps to SEO.
     
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  9. thecatalyst

    thecatalyst Active Member

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    #29
    I would also like some of what your smoking... Kidding. I do think it's possible that big G checks links in email against spam but not very likely. As far as your comments comment, I would have to agree to some degree but again not some thing to worry about yourself. I also know that big G does have a beta program that counts amounts of comments and ratings from sites and I'm sure this will be included in their algorithm if it's not already. All these things are stuff that your users do not you, so adding comments and rating pages by your self would take ages.

    Now read my reply and pretend your a rapper because it sounds cool :)
     
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  10. sparkah

    sparkah Member

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    #30
    digg dot com /tech_news/Report_Gmail_about_one_third_as_expensive_as_hosted_email

    you still think google doesnt index gmail?
     
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  11. sparkah

    sparkah Member

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    #31
    OK... for all you sceptics up there:

    see my blog for evidence. I cant post urls to other sites here yet... so i posted them in my blog.
     
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  12. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    #32
    lol..
    since when google started crawling emails? Can you show us some links for which theres email links?
    Or am I missing something?
     
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  13. longcall911

    longcall911 Peon

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    #33
    Sparkah, the problem is that you are new here and come in as though you know all about SEO. For people who have been doing this for years (12 years for me) we can't help but label you as another "know-it-all" who really knows nothing. We see many coming here. This is very unfair, but it is human nature.

    So, I ask, do you have any true evidence to back up your claim? Is there an actually experiment that you have conducted in a controlled environment? Or, are you really just telling us what you *think* is true? There is a big difference between saying something is so, versus saying that you believe it to be so.

    If you have not done an experiment, would you be willing to? Many here at DP would help by including the test domain in email links, creating a buzz. What do you say, would you?

    /*tom*/
     
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  14. izwanmad

    izwanmad Banned

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    #34
    you're out of your mind. Google doesn't crawl email (even gmail)!!!!!!

    "Relevance. THIS is based more on User COMMENTS than your own title or meta tags for obvious reasons."

    what do mean by that? If you're talking about make a relevant backlinks, yes, that's true.

    I've done SEO for many years and this is the first time I heard someone talking about the email link as the backlink.

    like longcall911 said, you need the clear evidence to prove your words..
     
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  15. johnegood

    johnegood Active Member

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    #35
    This makes no sense. It gives power to the email spammers. I doubt google would do that.
    I also doubt the idea that google is counting the links from igoogle homepages. Although it seems more likely than counting the email links.

    I think google is shifting rapidly towards weighing bounce rates seriously. Why? because I would.
     
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  16. sparkah

    sparkah Member

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    #36
    iz, actually... this is common knowledge in the google engineering / o'reilly community... see digg dot com screenshots:

    click on my blog link ... i've posted screen caps...
     
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    acecubbie Peon

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    #37
    People often say "content" is king when it comes to google rankings, but I still don't understand how google evaluates content.
     
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  18. izwanmad

    izwanmad Banned

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    #38
    well, the screenshot you post at your blog is people comment at digg... not the real evidence..

    do you have a website that rank high in serp using this technique? that's what the evidence we all want.
     
    izwanmad, Jan 11, 2009 IP