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Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by jrbiz, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. mmerlinn

    mmerlinn Notable Member

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    #21
    If he does it LEGALLY, then he is a GIVER.

    If he does it ILLEGALLY, then he is a TAKER and a THIEF.
    SEMrush
     
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    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    If you are a Liberal you are considered a giver.

    Each and every time we talk about this the left act like people on the right are the only people that do this. Pretty unbelievable.

    Gotta love the illegal leak of the tax return and the left nominee is out joking about it. That takes some character.
     
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    jrbiz Illustrious Member

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    Note that nowhere in the article or in Billary's silly statements about this "travesty" is there a mention of this being anything other than a legal deduction in which all tax laws were followed. They are trying to play on low information voters' inability to understand how business and taxes work and make the silly argument that businesses should pay taxes that they do not owe "for the greater good" because, of course, the government knows how to spend your money better than you do.

    Hypocrisy is essential in being a liberal these days. The sad part is that Trump earned his billions the old fashioned way: making things, buying things, etc., and employed tens of thousands of people along the way. Billary, of course, made their hundreds of millions giving "speeches" to Wall Street fatcats and Middle Eastern dictators who knew that they were buying access to political figures. Corrupted the government even more than it already is, did nothing for the economy in terms of adding value or employment, and yet she gets to prance about pointing the finger at Trump while her co-conspirators in the lamestream press cover up for her.
     
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    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/first-lady-rips-into-trump-about-3-am-tweets/vi-BBwZxbO

    This just keeps getting better - so elementary, just like her husband. . I guess we shouldn't care about the tax dollars spent when the president and his wife are flying all over the nation "campaigning" for Hillary. That shouldn't be considered "wasteful".

    0:16/17 - I think there is a pretty good chance that, with a global company, Trump was awake at 3AM not "roaming around" but checking Emails.. You know WORKING. But, Obama, his wife and Hillary would need a basic understanding of business to get this concept.

    Every bit of this speech is exactly why Hillary is NOT fit to be president. Hillary is the complete opposite of everything Michelle points out.
     
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    billzo Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter. The only matter is the question of what is legal and what is illegal.

    Millions of able-bodied welfare recipients not only do not pay federal income taxes, but they get free food, free housing, free health insurance... Add that cost up over 20 or 30 years. It's huge. You are looking at millions of people getting $100,000 or more in free cash and benefits from the government because they refuse to work.

    It is really getting sickening the outrageous lies and distortions the news media is making about Trump. The recent New York Times article about his big loss in 1995 did not say he didn't pay taxes for 20 years, only speculated as such, yet people are running around like mindless little parrots saying "Trump didn't pay taxes for 20 years." when nobody knows whether or not it is true. And even if it was true, it doesn't matter: Trump or anyone else only has to pay what they are legally required to pay in taxes and no more.

    Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama deducted investment losses on their 2015 tax return, just like Trump did in 1995. The difference is that Trump plays in the big leagues and his investment gains or losses will be much bigger than most of us have.

    Trump is audited every year, as many wealthy people are. If he did something illegal or wrong, the IRS would have caught it a long time ago.
     
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    billzo Well-Known Member

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    It's the main requirement. Other requirements are stupidity, gullibility, and the desire to ignore the truth if it "offends" people. Liberals think they are above everybody else just by virtue of their ideology. Even though studies have shown liberals donate far less to charity than conservatives, they are only "compassionate" when giving other people's money away. But the Obamas and the Clintons donate very little of their money to charity.

    Then we have Leonardo DiCaprio who lives in mansions and flies all over the world lecturing the rest of us about "climate change" due to carbon dioxide emissions. He emits more carbon dioxide than 10 average citizens combined and he has the audacity to point his finger at the rest of us.

    Not to mention that "climate scientists" have been going into the historical temperature measurements and adjusting them downward to make the past look cooler and the present look relatively warmer.

    From Forbes:

    Funny how the only "solution" to climate change proposed by the liberal left is higher taxes, isn't it? It's a big dumb joke, just like Obamacare. What a failure that is.
     
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    As expected another completely ridiculous debate was completed last night. Kaine was an absolute ball of sleaze. Don't discuss the issues or answer anything - trash Trump, bring up random things over and over again while accusing Pence of not answer questions and insulting him.
     
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    jrbiz Illustrious Member

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    Here is the next predictable part: the lamestream press will declare Kaine the winner of the debate and run blindly with it just like they did with the first Clinton/Trump debate. With about a month to go, this is when the liberal, lamestream press abandons even the slightest pretense of objectivity to become 100% fawning cheerleaders for the liberal candidate.
     
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    I only caught a few seconds of that debate here and there. As usual, the Democrat LIES and says that Trump praised Putin when that is completely false.

    I actually read what Trump said, and it was nothing in the way of praising Putin. In fact, Trump denounced Putin's actions. And Trump called Putin a "leader" because...he is the leader of Russia. Duh. That's not praise. And Trump never said he wanted to "punish" women who have abortions either. Just more distortion and outright lies.

    When I read what the news media says Trump said, and then actually look for video or a transcript of what Trump said, it's like living in Bizarro world: there is absolutely no relationship between the two. The news media is not just distorting anymore, they are outright lying about Trump to try to help Hillary.

    It's sad that American politics has been dumbed down to this ridiculous level.

    And a new book claims...that Hillary Clinton has heart problems. And, that Obama and the DOJ head had agreed in advance that Hillary would never be prosecuted for her felonies long before the FBI concluded its investigation. No surprises.
     
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    Yep, you know they will.

    Someone should remind her of this:
     
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    You didn't miss much, I contemplated turning it off more than Kaine interrupted Pence - 70 + times. :)

    They should not engage in these comments and bring up how Hillary carried herself as secretary of state. Far from a leader. Similar to the failure, non-leader, Obama.

    Agreed, and it's sad that these debates are going this way - with a moderator who does nothing but help the Democrats.

    The Dems could have placed a robot or a chalkboard with the talking points in Kaine's place and it would have been just as useful.
     
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    jrbiz Illustrious Member

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    Actually, Kaine did such a horrible job and looked so bad, even with the moderator on his team, that there was no way that the lamestream media could declare him the winner with a straight face. So, of course, unlike when Hillary "won" the first debate and they were providing nonstop, 24/7 analyses and discussions, what do you hear now regarding the VP debate? Crickets. Nothing to see here folks, please move along.
     
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    Trump is a pig. Hillary might not be the better candidate of the Democratic Party but it is better than Trump.

    I'll pass by after the election just rub it ! LOL ! Just kidding !

    Nice to see my pal from Australia Bushranger best regards.
     
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    Most men are, that's why porn is a multi-billion dollar industry.

    I wrote Ron Paul in the last 3 elections - I'll do it again.
     
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