Here is how the butchers of Iraq are protecting the butcher of Ossetia...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ST12, Aug 11, 2008.

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    A Hostile Political Anti-Russian war has been declared on all fronts against Russia.
    CNN, BBC and many others are actively taking part in massive anti-Russian campaings.


    Here is how the butchers of Iraq are protecting the butcher of Ossetia...
    McCain warns Russians of "severe, long-term negative consequences"
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    "This should be unacceptable to all the democratic countries of the world, and should draw us together in universal condemnation of Russian aggression," McCain said..............And, describing the Russian assaults that have gone beyond the disputed territory and into sovereign Georgia as "Moscow's path of violent aggression,"..........

    The agression on Yugoslavia, and Iraq were UN approved and legal and within the boundaries of US?!

    That's how the brainwashing propaganda works. Well written spins, designed to convince the average Joe that US is protecting the victims.
    As a matter of fact they do exactly the opposite............

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080811/pl_politico/19061;_ylt=Aiumb.gmQRQ6PswO3XmeV32s0NUE


    Russia in turn must speed up its political campaign and show the world the Truth.

    Also Russia should not stop until the Georgian army is disbanded and the guilty ones apprehended and brought to justice in Russia.
    In the west the butchers of Ossetia will be met as heroes.

    No US politician can preach democracy since non is practicing it.

    Instead of supporting Russia get rid of the criminal Georgian government they are getting in bed with Satan followers. I don't understand that.
     
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    SEOLinker Banned

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    Btw, I still don't get why I see so many times qoutes from McCain and Obama everywhere...this guys atm are nobody and nothing, when one of them will become president - it's whole another story.
     
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    McCain can tell whatever he wants. We were doing the same, saying about "long-term negative blah blah blah" when they fought for Kosovo.
     
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    Poor, poor Russians. Boo hoo.

    This move by Russia is only to gain control of a pipeline that supplies Europe much of their oil.

    Russia is using their windfall oil profits to throw their weight around in the region. It's as plain as the nose on your face.
     
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    ST12 Active Member

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    Cheap propaganda.
    It is US who is trying to get control of the world's OIL.
    It was Russia who got 2000 of her civilians burned alive in houses and crashed by Georgian tanks.

    Everywhere where there is OIL there come the US national interests.

    Aparantly honesty is a word which has no value to you.
     
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    Honesty is fine with me. Of course oil is in the US national interest. And Russia's.

    Russia is bombing oil pipelines and factories. All this because of 14 "peacekeepers"? Looks like Russia has its' own Iraq War to justify to the world.
     
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    Nope, that excuse will not work either ;)

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080809/wl_uk_afp/georgiasossetiarussiaunrestoilbp

    All this because of murdering 1,600 russian civilians in south ossetia + 15 peacekeepers.

    P.S: Im very surprised that British Petroleum said the truth?? Seems like BBC didnt teach them to say lies. :)
     
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    BBC is a little less biased than CNN. Not sure absolutely, but whole trend looks like so.
     
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    Oh yeah, CNN is the leader at that. BBC at least shows 1-2 minutes of russian side and opinions comparing to 10-15 of georgian :rolleyes: :D

    I got a satellite, so I can compare the 2 :)
     
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    How long have these "Russian civilians" been Russian? I bet they got mass-added just before the conflict.

    Where are the damn Ossetians anyway?

     
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    Ahh, I dont know how long, but they havent been a part of Georgia since 1990 and they fought already in 90's. So, this is a 2nd conflict between them.

    34K ossetians evacuated to Russia, to camps, hospitals, schools, etc.. A few still left in south ossetia.

    Wait...If it says that population of south ossetia is 75K, then 34K must be the people who lived in south ossetian capital, so the rest are in villages still.


    Update: Apparently, Abkaziya is joined the conflict as well (this is the 2nd breakaway republic that also fought in 90's against Georgia).

    Abkhaziya is giving a 12 hour ultimatum to georgian troops to go back to Georgia. (they are on the border with Abkaziya now)

    http://en.rian.ru/world/20080811/115954707.html
     
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    It reminds me more of Israeli - Hezbolah conflict ( you know couple of soldiers killed or taken and all went to hell ) and Turkey - Kurds conflict ( you know entering the sovereign Iraq :D ) than US - Iraq issue ;)

    Sure there is money ( oil ) involved but hey that is how the game is played. It seems unreasonable now to go and point the finger at Russia since everyone is doing it.
    The Georgian people will unfortunately take heavy toll because they elected crazy guy who allowed his country to come in the middle of two super powers. I saw him running today for cover from his own aircraft. He quickly went to the black humvee. Guess that would save him :D

    At the end of the day what worries me are our Brussels, european weasels ! They are quitetly doing their job. Italians building their third aircraft carrier, Germany has the largest european military force, french are arming themselves like crazy and are totally independent as far as military equipment goes, lords on the british islands is business as usual, etc...I am more afraid what this will bring in the next decades since history shows that we europeans are the most hungry for resources...If and when oil and water runs out the world should be prepared because euros are coming your way wherever you are !
     
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    There's no question oil is in US and Russian strategic interests. The difference is we help open oil up to the markets and Russia nationalizes it.
     
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    Don't you feel ashamed of your statements?

    Don't you have one iota of honor and dignity?
    Didn't your parents teach you to respect everyone?

    Sadly I don't think you can make the difference between right and wrong.
    Replying to your posts is a waste of time.
     
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    I want to ask you the same question. Where is your honour or dignity or respect? What is this like the 5th topic here saying the exact same bundle of lies? You have been giving a very one sided story. Georgia went in and started to try and re-establish some order in territory that is technically and legally theirs. Even if Russia protests that act it still gives them no right to respond the way they did. And Russia has been further escalating this way beyond belief. Russia had no right to do what they did and they are only in this for oil. If America were to of responded the way Russia did then you would be complaining about how terrible we are but since its Russia screwing up you are quick to take the wrong side again and defend them.
     
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    Feel free to stop replying then. Of course I have at least one "iota" of honor and dignity.

    The war is over energy. The world is running out of oil. Oil has been at all time high pricing for years. Certainly you think that the US invaded Iraq over oil yet you lack the basic fairness and honesty to admit that your beloved Russia just did the same.

    Russia is attempting to control oil supplies as well as exert control over their "Soviet" sphere of influence. You know it, and so do I.
     
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    1. There are way too many people who thinkg Bush invaded Iraq for OIL.

    2. Prove how Russia will control the OIL through Georgia without occupying the whole country. Russia is not occupying Georgia unlike US (who occupies Iraq).
    Your allegations are incorrect and have no sound foundation.
     
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    1. It does not matter how many people think the wrong thing.
    2. There is so much evidence saying that russia is using its oil influence in this war and they pushed into georgia deeper then the south ossentia region. Almost as if they had no business being in the region. First they get involved when it does not concern them really. And then they escalate things and push deeper into the country.

    Your alegations are also incorrect.
     
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    Man I thought you knew better than that.

    Russia lost over 15 peace keepers, and over 2,100 of her citizens in the Georgian attack. What do you expect them to do? Wait and look how Georgians will masacre more women and children?

    Reading your posts one may think something is wrong with you. Sorry man, you should show some respect to the victims of this needless war.
     
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    So you are saying 15 peace keepers is worth starting basically a full out war? That shows how messed up you are. And 2100 of the peopleare citizens of Georgia aka part of south ossentia.

    And since most people here think you need to be quiet they probably think something is wrong with you.
     
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