Irony. The person with multiple accounts is calling me a two face bitch. OK, I'm a two faced bitch for getting unjustly attacked by gworld. Whatever. compostannie, one account, one name, always consistant.
It was no lie, Annie. I fear you are getting sucked in by the propoganda in the internal DMOZ forums. Step away from there (and here if necessary) and look at it through the eyes of the Annie I think you are (or thought you were) and try to get back some objectivity. I think certain editors with their own motives are confusing you.
No David, this spoke volumes: Perhaps you are the one who should step back and reassess his objectivity and values. You have let me down but you don't care. You know my integrity would never allow me to gather up all those sick comments you're making and write a blog titled "Respected Ottawa Psychologist encourages webmasters to use kiddie porn for promotion." Think about it.
1. that was not aimed at you - why would you take it personally? 2. that was a tongue in cheek comment about the looseness of the criteria for Adult listings, which I have been discussing here and there for a while, as you know Huh? 1. what sick comments? 2. I haven't written a blog about you or gathered up comments you have been making for a blog or for any other purpose - you have totally lost me with your point here.
There is no tongue in cheek where kiddie porn is concerned. You said so yourself. It's not acceptable. Period. I consider that sick. Your blog article about pedophilia said all dmoz editors. The code you recommended people put on their website said all dmoz editors support kiddie porn. That includes me. I've worked hard on this issue. Now you and gworld and a couple others are turning me into the enemy while making tongue in cheek comments urging people to put kiddie porn on their website. I'm offended.
It was sarcasm, Annie. I've said it here and in PMs to you. Anyone who has read what I have written here and in several other places over the years would see that clearly. If you choose not to accept that, do with it what you will. No it did not. Here is the complete test of that blog entry at http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2006/02/14/aol-owned-dmoz-directory-promotes-child-pornography/ : No it did not. Not even close. Here is the complete text of my post: You are attacking gworld and trying to claim he is a corrupt Adult editor and accusing him of not helping to correct the situation in Adult. I am objecting to that because it makes no sense whatsoever (why would he expose corrupt and questionable practices in Adult if he were one of the people engaging in those practices). I am not making you the enemy unless you choose to believe the DMOZ propoganda that is, not for the first time, trying to discredit the information by attacking the person. I can't do anything about that. Read what I've written here. Then re-read the posts you are being told are offensive. Then ask yourself who is feeding you misinformation and who is telling the truth. The do with it what you will. The rest is up to you.
Please don't play the victim, Annie. You are not. You have a lot of power being on the inside, have a lot more knowledge of what is going on internally, and frankly, the hard work you are referring to, doesn't show. How hard should it be to get rid of web sites that promote the act of sexual intercourse with children as "normal" and "nurturing" for the child. Your appearance in here appears to be self serving. Why do you care about what we think. Do what is right to you and whatever you believe in and don't worry if you get our blessing or praise. Your time in here seems not well spent, you're not giving us anything new. The fact is that the editors are still playing games, shifting a bad entry into an even better category and then letting you guys take the fall for it. Once again: it doesn't matter who is going to be the hero, just some people need to. Yes, you are bound by guidelines holding you hostage, but only as much as you let them. Guidelines created by those under whose control sex with children has been promoted in the directory you have signed up to volunteer for. What do you need in order to stop whining in here, and start focussing on making the changes without accepting any less than positive results. We (or most of us are getting tired of it). I've read the Psychlinks entry, and in no way does it suggest what you have accused it of. It leaves an open conclusion to the reader, as it should. Did you expect a praise of the non-corrupt editors or an honorable mention? If you are so afraid to lose your position within DMOZ, you won't be very useful in what you're doing. If you believe that you can make a difference long term ... ummm ...no ! You won't. They are way ahead of you, and you still editing, are indirectly enabling. I'd like all of you guys to just disappear for a couple of weeks and then come back with some real news. This is getting absolutely rediculous. Go as far up the ladder as you can, call AOL, do something. You have the evidence at hand. The only one holding you back is you, and once again: don't expect our blessing. You have to earn that yourself.
Annie in another thread you accused me of attacking you in PM, I posted all my PM to you in thread for everyone to judge and asked you to post anything I might have forgotten with my full blessing. I also asked you that may be you should post in that thread your PM to me and also the content of your post in RZ that is in regard to me, so everyone can be the judge of what has happened. I think the fact that you have refused to do that, shows the reality and the truth about your accusation that everyone is attacking you which is totally false.
Just shut the hell up, Blobmaster. You don't know anything about it and frankly you are the last person to be giving Annie or anyone else a lecture on ethics or anything even close. And I doubt that she cares in the least whether she has your blessing. I can't imagine anyone caring about having your blessing, frankly. Just go back to General Chat where no one expects you to have anything to say.
Am I confused or did Blogmaster basically just agree with minstrel only to have minstrel turn around and viciously attack him for agreeing...? The DPers are turning to cannibalism!
I'm not playing the victim. The fact that I'm being attacked here is real. I have no power inside the ODP. If you think I do then you have no clue as to how things work. My hard work doesn't show? Oh well, it doesn't mean I haven't put in more than my share of time. I don't need your "blessing or praise" and my presence here is not self serving in the least. I've heard the complaints that editors won't communicate with webmasters and I came here to communicate. I've always been honest in all my postings here. Maybe you don't agree with everything i write and that's fine, but through it all I still have my honesty and integrity. Gworld, I'm not going to play your game. You've proven yourself to be a corrupt editor and you've shown that you have no qualms about posting confidential communications. You'll post what you want and you'll say what you want. The flip-floping hypocrisy of some of you people is mind numbing. I don't believe it was ever about the children for some of you. Yes, minstrel cares even though he's made some poor choices in using pedophilia as a tongue in cheek joke. Other than him, of the more vocal of you, many of you have shown you were only taking part in a bitch fest, using children but not caring about them. I'm proud of my work so far on this project. In spite of you.
I'm not surprised you are confused, sid - it doesn;t seem to take much to do that. What actually happened was that Blobmaster dropped in here to slam Annie because he thought he saw an easy opportunity for self-promotion - this is just what Toots, aka MikeDamman, aka Blobmaster does. And what I told him in my reply was to get lost - this thread isn't about him and isn't an opportunity for him to take a cheap shot at Annie to make himself look good.
I made a mistake, I let my guard down and forgot to avoid the troll. I want to make it very clear that although minstrel and I seem to disagree at the moment, I have nothing but the greatest respect for him. Adults can disagree without losing respect for each other. Now, I have a lot of work to do.
No, I'm not self promoting, no I'm not attacking anyone as a person, other than the agendas. What I do despise is the 50 pages of the Annie/Minstrel love fest cluttering up the thread about childporn in DMOZ. It makes it hard to see the important parts. Minstrel has nothing better to do than talk about DMOZ, he probably doesn't want a solution. Annie, I'm not sure. But either way, if you guys have some arguing going on or whatever ... take it to PM, no one else needs or wants to read it.
Minstrel has always been a moron, but once in a while he says something good. Too bad that the good is only a fassade (spelling) and he doesn't mean it. He's fake as a person, but what he says, and has said in his blog ... is pretty real. Unfortunately he won't leave his comfort zone to do anything more, too much of a guttless coward.
Wow, that's weird. I always thought you made sense blogmaster, never said a bad word about you, never repped you anything but green. It doesn't matter if you don't approve of me posting in the childporn thread, at least I can honestly say I made a real difference and got rid of offensive sites. What did you do? Oh well, I suppose with so much hatred you would tend to confuse those who have wronged you with those who haven't. I won't hold it against you.
Well, for all I see, it's 1 year later and 100s of pages longer, and there are still sites listed in DMOZ that encourage child porn. (This is not about green rep, who cares about that, this is not about individuals ... this is about getting things done or not done. And I'm afraid that you, Minstrel and others are more into chit chatting about unimportant things than getting things done). You have once mentioned you or those you know had a lot of pull getting things done. So why are there still sites listed that encourage sex with kids? My problem is that there are 100s of worthless pages saying the same thing. Gworld caught the things you didn't btw ... you may call him a troll, but at least he spots what needs to be spotted. Other than that, please: don't waste everyone's time with wordgames in here. It's getting really old. And the fact that some of you guys (you, Minstrel and a few others), cannot put their own personal egos aside for something more important, is quite shameful in my book.