Help with Keywords?

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by ViciousSummer, May 12, 2004.

  1. ViciousSummer

    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    #21
    Great suggestion (which answers a question I had about URL's)! Thanks Foxy
    :D !
     
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    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    #22
    haha!
    About the the ALT tags, for the most part, I've been entering "Hustler Lingerie", should I shorten that to just "Lingerie"? Also, my product pages are generated by the shopping cart/admin page. Is it possible to ALT the pics on those pages?
     
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    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    #23
    Great idea about including more content about lingerie (history, etc). I've been too lazy to do it, but since I'm going after "lingerie", I think it's time :) . And, yes, Shawn should totally write me a little multi-choice quiz! I was already pondering how I could do something like that, but now that you suggested it, Shawn should do it...haha.
     
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    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    #24
    Why is it a "fools task" to optimize for a single keyword? Too much competition?

    I know the importance of backlinks/anchor text, but I have a questions about anchor text...Most of my backlink anchor text is "Hustler Lingerie", does Google pick up those keywords as "Hustler" & "Lingerie" or only "Hustler Lingerie" together?

    Thanks for the help, Compar

    :D !
     
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    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    #25
    The only thing I know is that once I changed by signature to include the anchor text "Custom Belt Buckles", I shot up from out of nowhere to #5 for that KW. So anchor text and links have to count for something since that link is to my Ebay store, which is unspiderable and has 1 page of content.
    :D . So, I'm with you...I'll take the links from "unrelated" websites like this forum.
     
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    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    #26
    Well, Foxy, you're here too, so which is it: the frilly panties, my lovely picture or could it be that I'm digitalpoint's sister (you forgot that one :D )?! haha...just kidding :) . Whatever it is, I'm just greatful that everyone here is so knowledgable & helpful!
     
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  7. compar

    compar Peon

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    #27
    I assume that what these figure mean is that 'adoption london' returns 1,180,000 pages when searched on in Google. That is not necessarily an indication of the competitiveness of the keyword or search term. The only people that will give you an idea of how competitive the search term is, are Wordtracker and Overture.

    Shawn combines both tools and they report the searches per day for 'adoption london' as 22 per day according to Wordtracker and as you would expect 0 per day on Overture which is a US search facility.

    This is my very point. Yes you can get Ranking for words like this based on content alone. This term could never be considered competitive. It is not commercial. But remember our friend "lingerie" with 30,000 searches a day reported by Wordtracker and 60,000 reported by Overture. Now that is a competitive term and there is no way in hell that you are ever going to get in the top 100 places for that term based on content.

    So you guys who are ranking well on very rarely used and none commercial terms are doing the newbies a disservice by insisting that content will do it. Content won't do it for competitive commercial terms.

    So my challenge stands. I said show me a site with a search term that is searched on 2,000 time per day or more. You respond with a term that is searched on 22 times a day. I hardly think you met the challenge. In fact I think you proved my point very nicely.
     
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    compar Peon

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    #28
    It's English for million.
     
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    #29
    Have you looked at the sites in the top ten on Google for Lingerie?

    I wrote that last sentence before I went and did a search on lingerie. My anticipation was that the top site would have a ton of backlinks. But in fact the top site only has 31 reported backlinks. However it does rank number 1 in McDar's tool for 'allinanchor:'. That means in my mind that with 50 to 100 links using lingerie as anchor text you actually might get on the first page of results.

    On whether Google ranks you for lingerie from you 'hustler lingerie' anchor text I'm not sure. They show you as zero in the allinanchor: search, but that doesn't mean they havent given you some relevance points for lingerie.

    But I reverse my earlier comment. Normally I would have thought the competition would have been insurmountable. But it appears that people in the lingerie business don't know much about SEO. Damn if I only wore thongs I'd offer my services to the market segment.

    On a purely personal note how the hell do woman resist the temptation to be constantly picking that thong out of their bums?
     
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    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    #30
    Yes, I'm trying to bank on the fact that the lingerie biz is pretty much run by shot-out former strippers and people knowing little about SEO :D haha.

    As for your thong question, they are the most comfortable underwear! I guess since your underwear are already up there, there is no where else to "pick" them to...hehe. I find that "full-butt" underwear are way more uncomfortable then thongs...Maybe YOU should try a thong, Compar! :D
     
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    expat Stranger from a far land

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    #31
    1. I don't argue that backlinks regardlessly are the present short term fix.
    BUT like keywords cloaking stuffing it's short term as it is too easy.

    Again by all means use it but don't be obsessed with it as when it changes and there is no fall back it's a very deep plunge.

    2. Shawns tools are excellent but WT and Over are limited and should only be used for indication the actual figuers for lingeri(e) / lengeri etc is above 6 digits.
    (I personally belive 90% are saliving window shoppers at best... the more refined searches are the likely buyers but hey...)

    VS please try to lower the weight of your home page the pictures are still heavy. Going for and sustaining serious traffic has it's own challenges.

    Present homepage picture & graphic load alone is above 200k assuming just 10% click nbr 1 = 2GB and due to the load time involved server may run out of connections.

    Thought I throw this one in.
    M

    PS on the visits saga the mentioned adoption site resolves 4 digit+ visitors a day (partially due to the fact that Greater London has more inhabitants than Canada). P1 on adoption searched for according to WT/O 5.500 times is of absolutely no interest as it triggers searchers to immediately refine.
     
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  12. Revelations-Decoder

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    #32
    If I had an idea what you we're trying to ask I might be able to answer, but unfortunately I have very little clue as to what exactly you are going on about tbh.

    R U just trying to wind us up and have samz (or other of the mod squad) mosey on by and see how long it takes b4 you get banned?
     
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    #33
    Real hard one "Lingerie" ViciousSummer and you would be surprised at who is competing with you. You may be under a slight misconception if you think it is ex models etc as for example here in the UK one of the Dragons from the TV show Dragons Den (a multi millionaire no less) is one of the people behind (and employing) those getting some top results RE that and related search terms.
     
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    #34
    Start a thread so you stay on track/focused then as this thread is about "Lingerie" as ViciousSummer the OP's original question should hint at - keep on topic fella, you will get much better answers if you start your own topic matey!
     
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    #35

    True but it's still showing up and easily found - nevertheless though fella you should make your own thread with your questions as then it will help us keep on track and help you with your questions easier.

    BTW I thought DP sucked for ages when I first joined but after a while found it more usful than I first realised, so please b4 you form that mindset give it a chance as you may well end up pleasantly suprised
     
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    #36
    Like I said dude I thought the same - have even said so, but you may be surprised.

    Post a thread with your questions and PM me the link so I don't miss it and perhaps myself and others will have you thinking differently.

    DP is changing - I used to think exactly as you seem to, but now realise there are redeeming qualities even though there are negatives.

    At the end of the day like any forum there is only so much members moderators and partcipants can do and like me you should try and at least give it a chance and not let the odd negative allow you to make such a broud and sweeping unwavering statement Sir.
     
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    #37
    Well - increase keyword density in content, title tag and description tag (this may mean to reduce density of other keywords too!) and concentrate on one particular page which you want to boost w.r.t. this one keyword. And, of course, get backlinks with this unique word as anchor.
     
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    #38
    Thanks for so much of information
     
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    #39
    'keyword...' is important ....
     
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    #40
    some great advice there from compar.

    You should review the fact that for your efforts to get lingerie keyword with 30000 searches. for the same effort you could get 5 2 word keywords for a total of 100000 searches a day.

    i would cast your net wider.

    look at the lingerie niche identify sub niches and dominate them e.g. costume, sexy, etc.

    this way you can monetiize off a wider range of products and get a wider search volume of people.
     
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