Help me on my SEO--- Experts Please

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by cbhattarai, Oct 9, 2012.

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    I am from India and i am fed up of the span IP that i get. It becomes hard for me to get my project into ranking. I am doing SEO from last 4 years and when it comes to the end of the result it feels like i ain't learned anything. I am currently working on some security camera project and the ranking is quite good, but the client of mine want his website to get ranked in top 20. One keyword is on 22nd rank and rest is on the first page itself.

    When i search for forums related to the security cameras i don't get relevant forums and the same happens with the do-follow blog commenting. I wanted help from experts who can help me on this issue. I wanted some full proof do-follow blog commenting and forum search technique for security camera. For forum i search this way:
    keyword "forums powered by vbulletin/phpbb/mybb..."

    for do-follow i search as:

    keyword "allowed html tags </a>"
    keyword "post new comment"
    keyword "add a comment" and so on. For every procedure it take long time. Even for getting to 4 do-follow high PR approved Blog commenting it takes more than 45 minute to 1 hour.

    Can you please help me on this issue. Please provide me with some techniques that will help me...

    Thank You in advance..
     
    cbhattarai, Oct 9, 2012 IP
  2. j.ryan

    j.ryan Guest

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    I also search forums and blogs same as you do. Yes it takes a long time. But I can manage about 10 in an hour. If you cant find blogs and forums with exact keyword try something close to it. I don't know about any shortcut techniques about this.
     
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    pigpromoter Well-Known Member

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    That's what you get if you want to do manual blog commenting. It's slow and useless, I don't know why you're even bothering with it.
     
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  4. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    So you've been doing SEO for four years and still only know how to spam?

    Learn SEO rather than spamming. Solid, long-term results due to gaining organic links.
     
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  5. cbhattarai

    cbhattarai Active Member

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    Hello sir,

    Spamming is what i don't do. The only thing that bothers be is that the process that i go through takes a lot of time....:D
     
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  6. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    You want to do blog commenting and forum posting for links? That's spam, regardless of if you do it manually or with automated software. If you read Google's Webmaster Guidelines, you will understand that (almost?) any link placed (paid or otherwise) is considered spam/a violation of guidelines, More information here:

    Link schemes

    You will notice that it even mentions forum comments.

    Google's emphasis is on:

    1. Quality content designed for humans.
    2. Organic links, i.e. ones given by someone else because they think your site is good.

    Taking a route of organic link building doesn't mean it's difficult. As you'll see on SEOmoz, assuming you are not too lazy to read and learn?
     
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  7. thiendung.info

    thiendung.info Greenhorn

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    hello , I'm from vietnam
    Your comments very useful.i'm a newbie and I do not want become to spamer
    I've read through the rules of google and I understand them.
    The problem is how can I do that?? Really hard?

    You are one expert. You can sent me little documentation or experience for me? My email:
    Or send me one link specific instructions about that .. Thank you
     
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    swft Peon

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    switch to organic and do ppc
     
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    chatygonline Greenhorn

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    Find sites or blogs that ranks on the same keywords as yours and get links from them. Make sure too that you get sites or blogs with your keyword on the domain name. That helped me get my client's ranking on the first page of search engine results.
     
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  10. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    No, not difficult really, as long as you don't try to be a "Jack of all trades" (do everything yourself), i.e. outsource the things you're not as good in (for example, if you're bad at graphics). You don't need to outsource a whole job, just parts. I'll send you an email tonight (UK time, when I have more free time).
     
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    thiendung.info Greenhorn

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    oh..thankiu very much .
    My concern here again ,want backlink good without having to go spam
     
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    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    No problem. Good luck, mate. I hope it helps.

    Well, that's the way to head these days for stable, long-term rankings. Fortunately.

    Danny Sullivan wrote a great article about links:
    Link Building Means Earning “Hard Links” Not “Easy Links”

    There is also an audio version of his rant. Really, he hit the nail on the head.
     
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    Nishant Saxena Peon

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    Helo Mr. ryan_uk,

    Can you please explain me what "spamming" is exactly.
     
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    ninjamtlt1 Active Member

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    It's gonna take a while no matter what you do, I don't think there's anything you can do about it. The more work somethin takes, the more it's worht it :)
     
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  15. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    If you follow the link in one of my above posts it will give you an idea, otherwise search Google/Bing/whatever you prefer for "web spam" and you'll get the idea. It's well documented.
     
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    johnfambrini Greenhorn

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    Google philosophy is simple: "build it and they will come" build your site and links will come and if they don't buy ads from us.
     
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    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    @johnfambrini, if the links don't come then there is a problem with 1) the content and/or 2) the marketing strategy. (Let's make content an umbrella of content intended to consume, but also how it's presented - site design, usability, etc.) Knowing your market and customers/visitors (that you want) is important in building for success. Don't necessarily need ads, just the right strategy.
     
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    value_links Greenhorn

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    @ryan_uk: I've read your (rather strong) views vis-a-vis Link Building with a good amount of interest, on this thread as well as on a few others.

    Interestingly, the same Danny Sullivan article that you mentioned above contradicts some of your views, as I mention below:

    You wrote:
    While Danny wrote:
    What you say comes out sounding like every single blog comment (with a link) is spam. My interpretation of what Danny says is: If a blog comment you post is useful (i.e. adds value to the original blog post), it is okay to post it (with or without a link).

    You wrote:
    While Danny wrote:
    I wonder what's your take on this.
     
    value_links, Oct 17, 2012 IP
  19. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    Actually, it's not so dissimilar - as I wrote, for links. As you can see from Danny (and as you quoted), "don't comment to just drop a link." Rand Fishkin did a great Whiteboad on using comments to your advantage, without spamming:

    Comment Marketing as an Inbound Tactic - Whiteboard Friday

    No, as I wrote "for links", that's quite clear. There's a difference between for a link and with a link if you're genuinely interacting. However, Rand takes it a step further, without a link.

    We all know how ineffectual (from an SEO point of view) social bookmarking is now. However, it can still be useful, but depends upon how you are handling it. Use it as a marketing opportunity. Take this comment from Danny in the context of his whole post: he's not saying spam social bookmarking sites, is he? As it's contrary to everything else. It's more like he's saying contribute to the actively used sites where you think it will be beneficial to the community. Don't try to manipulate, but rather use your brand, post as you. If you take a quick look, you'll see this is what Search Engine Land also does (with social media). It's well-known what Google says about brand, so get your brand out there and communicate it to interested people, gain followers, etc. (Look on SEOmoz, quite a few good blog posts about building a legitimate community, engaging with it, mistakes to avoid, etc.) A brand doesn't just have to be Microsoft, Cola-Cola, etc. Anyone can make their own brand and it doesn't have to be massive, just even recognised in your own community/niche.
     
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  20. cbhattarai

    cbhattarai Active Member

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    Wow this seems interesting now....
     
    cbhattarai, Oct 31, 2012 IP