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Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by 010081, Mar 8, 2007.

  1. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #41
    Well...now that you sites are actually worthless...I'll make a sacrifice to buy them from you for $20....from $0/month from adsense, you make a profit of 1000000%...which is a good deal for you...and I'll get a zero revenue sites that I need to pay for hosting and stuff....I know...I know...I'm losing my shirt here...but, hey, I'm here to help...:D
     
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  2. alisha

    alisha Peon

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    #42
    oh my god that's terrible, sorry to hear that. :(
     
    alisha, Mar 8, 2007 IP
  3. Joseph Williams

    Joseph Williams Peon

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    #43
    sad story, exactly why you have to work with multiple income sources
     
    Joseph Williams, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    Notting Notable Member

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    #44
    You'll make a lot more money now.

    Now you have adsense out of your head you can think of more creative ways of capturing the true value of the volume of traffic which your sites receive.

    Try thinking less web business and more "real life" business. Maybe a bit of vertical integration perhaps - what were the people advertising on your site selling? Look at the possibilities of getting into those markets.

    Good luck - the future is brighter!

    Notting
     
    Notting, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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  5. Cal813

    Cal813 Active Member

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    #45
    mabye google just didn't want to fork over 6 grand, and just thought mabye lying to you will save them the payout!
     
    Cal813, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    codeber Peon

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    #46
    LMFAO!

    I think google have provided that in about....oh.... 0.0000001% of cases where they have banned someone.
     
    codeber, Mar 8, 2007 IP
  7. arcguy

    arcguy Well-Known Member

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    #47
    you are a brave man who take this big issue and sad issue in JOke, but you might be thinking that this should not be done this way, isnt it?
     
    arcguy, Mar 8, 2007 IP
  8. Bombaywala

    Bombaywala Peon

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    #48
    Damn thats crazy. You could have alarmed Google if you monitored your income. It would have helped I think.
     
    Bombaywala, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    csite Well-Known Member

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    #49
    you can sue google. They have to show you exactly what the fraud clicks were and give you your legally earned clicks, companies have sued google before and won!
     
    csite, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    dklicious Peon

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    #50
    Sorry to hear that man. :(

    Hope you find another way to earn some cash.
    Best of luck!
     
    dklicious, Mar 8, 2007 IP
  11. kevinn

    kevinn Active Member

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    #51

    ok so you got Januarys check for $2000 and Februarys check was for $6000? Im sure your 300% increase in earnings in one month raised red flags.
     
    kevinn, Mar 8, 2007 IP
  12. Tearabite

    Tearabite Prominent Member

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    #52
    You cant criminaly prosecute a company for abiding by the legal contract that was agreed-to by both parties.

    Can you show us some links or info about "some companies" that have sued Adsense and won? I am just curious becuase when we signed up with Adsense we all (legally) agreed to abide by their TOS and play by their rules.. If you actually read thru those rules you will see that some may not seem fair - but that's what we agreed to..
     
    Tearabite, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    #53
    may b ur visitors and impressions didnt compare well with ur earnings.....

    u dont sound tht sad either....u sure 6000$ was ALL URS? or.....
     
    blogster, Mar 8, 2007 IP
  14. Set

    Set Peon

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    #54
    You can sue them, because some of their rules can be illegal/not applicable depending which country you live on.

    In my country for example when there is an agreement between large company and individual/small company and the terms of such agreement are being provided by the big company and you (a small company/individual) cannot renegotiate these terms (you were not allowed to renegotiate Google TOS and suggest what they should change for you, were you?), then all entries which tries to rip you of some of your basic rights are not valid according to the law. I believe many points in their T&C would fall in that category.

    So, if I've earned $6000 a month and in a legitimate way (or I would believe so) and Google banned me providing no details why they did it, then most likely I wouldn't let it go like that. Of course if Google provided the proofs or at least explained why they believe the clicks were fraudulent I wouldn't want that money.

    Right now it must feel really terrible for a honest webmaster who had been click bombed for example, when he is being told: "We detected fraudulent clicks, you're kicked out of our program for life, we're keeping all your money, and sorry but we don't provide any details, bye. Thanks for your understanding.".

    It's another story though that perhaps about 99.9% cases when they ban an account is a correct decision, but no one of us would like be that 0.1%, would we?
     
    Set, Mar 8, 2007 IP
  15. CristianR

    CristianR Peon

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    #55
    6k is a large amount of money .. but , as an old saying goes " adsense sux , go for yahoo ! "
     
    CristianR, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    #56
    What kind of site was it? How were you promoting it?
     
    checksum, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #57
    Let me guess - you were tempted by one of those paid-to-surf networks where you sign up and people just sit all day clicking on ads on all the sites in the network?
     
    mcfox, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    checksum Notable Member

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    #58
    From that description it sounds like there was foul play.

    You don't make 8k in two months advertising on forums.
     
    checksum, Mar 8, 2007 IP
  19. DavidK1

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    #59
    Wow, I am sorry to hear all the horror stories, but I'm glad to have stumbled on this thread.

    I had a similar experience over a year ago, but i've never been big into adsense.. so it was only like $800. The only reason I signed up for an account, is because I bought a site that had adsense revenue.

    That site only made 3-6$ a day. About 6 months later, some of my real estate sites got top 10 serp. I put adsense on them, and instantly started doing $30 to $70 a day with my best day topping at a little over 100.

    After about 3 weeks of this, I got the email from Adsense telling me my account was closed for click fraud. I responded asking the typical who, what, when, and where. Their only response was that their detection method was "secret" and the data could not be shared. They did inform me that I could send an appeal email. I did, but never got a response.

    Even if there were invalid clicks, not all of them were, and that justifies taking away the previous 6 months earnings? (I never gave payment details.)

    I had let it go, but this thread ignited the original anger I had, but now I can do something about it!!!!

    I now manage an Adwords account that easily spends $10k a month. I took it over in mid Feb. The account had been on "budget optimizer" for almost a year, and hand't been touched! Costs of conversions were anywhere from $86 to $193 for a site that has an average sale of $67. Most of the conversion rates were below .75%, and none of them were above 1%. Now that I have a proper strategy in place, we are getting better results and spending $150 less per day!

    This made me wonder. If Google is just jacking it's Adsense publishers left and right (as described in this thread) how do they redistribute that money back to the Adwords client...

    I gave Adwords a call, and they told me how I could run a report. Going back to Jan 2006, the total amount spent with Google: $147,869.47.
    Total amount credited for invalid clicks: $1.37.

    So considering this campaign was running content network until I took charge, is an invalid click rate assessment of .000009% reasonable?

    I'm sure many of you know the answer to that.

    I am about to get some serious payback on Google. I went off on the Adwords rep, and she just kept trying to spin it by saying that Google cared about my client, and that they had "specialists" monitoring the account. That made me laugh really hard. I asked her, "What do the specialists think about an account that have the stats this one did. Would they certify that the "budget optimizer" was doing its job, and state that my client's money was 'well spent'?" Her reply: "I can't comment on that."

    I'm going to shoot for a 25% credit of money already spent. I know thats a little lofty, but I will not settle for zero. I'll close the account if thats how it turns out... I'm getting better results with Yahoo anyways.

    I'll let you know when I get a response from the invalid click "specialists".
     
    DavidK1, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    #60
    Send them your IP data and call them on the phone as well. It worked for a friend of mine but didnt work for me =/

    Its worth a try for $6000
     
    exponent, Mar 8, 2007 IP