Have you ever wonder about the existent of GOD?

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Have you ever wonder about existent of GOD?

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  2. No

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  1. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #61
    Good point.

    Too-shay my friend... toooo-shay...
     
    GeorgeB., Sep 21, 2007 IP
  2. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #62
    I am also too-shay to stick my fingers into a power point. Some things are better not experienced and I will trust others who say it will not be a pleasant experience and that is why I am not going to waste my time.
     
    proteindude, Sep 21, 2007 IP
  3. progresivo

    progresivo Peon

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    #63
    Everyone thinks of it once in a while. 1.Few draw real conclusions out of it (unfortunately). 2. It is pointess to discuss matter like God's existence with those who dont feel Him. It is like talking with a blind about colours.
     
    progresivo, Sep 21, 2007 IP
  4. comboy

    comboy Well-Known Member

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    #64
    GOD exist in all religion. People mention GOD in many way. They can not have the same idea if it does not exist. Is it correct?
     
    comboy, Sep 21, 2007 IP
  5. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #65
    Explain Buddhist then.
     
    Jackuul, Sep 21, 2007 IP
  6. comboy

    comboy Well-Known Member

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    #66
    I do not understand what you mean. But Buddhist is not GOD. In Buddhism, there are no person like Jesus. His rule does not force a person have to believed in only him. Buddhist is not the most powerful man. There are also GOD besides him. What he want is peace, help, love .. for everyone. Not like Christian and other religions, tell the good things but make a lot of wars.
     
    comboy, Sep 21, 2007 IP
  7. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Budhism should be called escapism. After all that is what it's all about.
     
    proteindude, Sep 21, 2007 IP
  8. comboy

    comboy Well-Known Member

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    #68
    Can you explain more about escapism?
     
    comboy, Sep 21, 2007 IP
  9. comboy

    comboy Well-Known Member

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    #69
    Pictures of 2 master of 2 religion. Both of them are beautiful.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    comboy, Sep 22, 2007 IP
  10. comboy

    comboy Well-Known Member

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    #70
    Buddhism and Happiness

    Buddhism can not be called escapism. Escapism is only a part of Buddhism. It main idea of Budhism is find the way to make people happy. Escapism is just one of many ways to make people happy.

    Refer to:
    http://funnyhappyworld.blogspot.com/2007/08/buddhism-about-happiness.html
     
    comboy, Sep 22, 2007 IP
  11. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #71
    Jesus does not force you to believe in Him. You do make a valid point though: he is the most powerful man. If he was the most powerful in that he influenced the most minds then why not believe in him? Why settle for second best?
     
    proteindude, Sep 23, 2007 IP
  12. comboy

    comboy Well-Known Member

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    #72
    Jesus did. For example:
    1. When you go to church, all Vicars always tell you that you have to believe in Jesus.
    2. When you married with a person which is in other religion, that person have to be reject his religion, go to church and listen to Vicars. That is why i said this. It is not fair. Buddism never do that. You can keep your religion, and no one can force you do what you do not want.
     
    comboy, Sep 23, 2007 IP
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #73
    Also if you don't believe in him you burn in hell forever. This is what religions do, They control you through fear. I could understand this kind of tactic working hundreds/thousands of years ago, But this is 2007. As a species we are supposed be beyond this kind of ludicrous superstition.
     
    stOx, Sep 23, 2007 IP
  14. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #74
    1) You're right: WHEN you go to church. So do you go to church?? Is anyone forcing you to go to church? Or do you have a choice whether or not to go to church? Millions of people stay at home on Sunday. I don't see anyone forcign them to go to church.

    2) You're right. Yet no one is forcing you to marry a Christian. You decide for yourself whether or not to marry a Christian. And I think it's also right for a Christian to decide he/she will ONLY marry a Christian. It saves a lot of disputes after marriage.
     
    proteindude, Sep 23, 2007 IP
  15. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #75
    So what's the big deal??? If you think it's all a fairy tale then why let it bother you? Unless, something inside of you tells you it may not be a fairy tale after all.

    And regarding 2007. You know some things never go out of fashion. You came into this world in a very old fashioned way and you will also leave this world in an old fashioned way.
     
    proteindude, Sep 23, 2007 IP
  16. omgitsfletch

    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    #76
    Proteindude, again I find myself in agreeance with you. If you are that concerned with the teachings of Christianity, particularly the part about Hell, you need to re-examine your faith immediately to be sure you believe what you think you believe.

    While I think to some degree the whole part about Hell is used as a fear tactic, I don't delude myself into thinking it's the sole basis for most Christians' beliefs. Otherwise you'd see a lot more idiots around here throwing out Pascal's wager as the unequivocal argument for being Christian. A lot of people truly believe in Christ and God and the Christian message, the threat of Hell aside, and to them I say congratulations.

    I don't care if not one other person ever becomes atheist in their life, as long as religious followers practice religious tolerance for all religions (and my lack thereof). I've seen a lot of good people on here, and know they only wish to spread the word of Christ because they think they are saving others, and as long as they try to do that in a calm, respectful manner, it's all good with me.

    /Doesn't mean it'll work, though :p
     
    omgitsfletch, Sep 23, 2007 IP
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #77
    Why do atheists care about religion?
    Similar laws, restrictions and policies exist where i live.
     
    stOx, Sep 24, 2007 IP
  18. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #78
    Help me with something. I could be wrong but as I understand it the SOLE purpose of the atheistic organizations is to discredit (mainly) Christianity.

    Can you show me some good these atheistic organisations do? Show me perhaps a hospital, or an orphanage, or a village in Africa supported by the atheists. Because if there is no God, who should help these poor sick people and orphans? So start giving me some names please.
     
    proteindude, Sep 24, 2007 IP
  19. judetheobscure

    judetheobscure Peon

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    #79
    firstly atheists are not on this earth just to get at christians, though when they come across people like you they would probably have to put you right on a few things.
    as for atheists that contribute to this world, well both 'medicine sans frontiers' and 'amnesty international' are non-religious charities that are run and supported by both atheists and religious people alike. though of course there never will be a charitable organisation that states it is purely atheist, for all atheists see the need to work alongside everyone, either fellow atheists or those belonging to an organised religion. and as for an atheist anthem, which you once mentioned never having heard, how about the most popular song of all time as voted for by the UK public, which was also named as the one song most representative of peace, 'IMAGINE' by john lennon, listen to the lyrics, they really are beautiful.
     
    judetheobscure, Sep 24, 2007 IP
  20. stOx

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    #80
    Why did you quote me when you have no intention what-so-ever of addressing what i raised?

    I don't think there are any atheist organisations that do things like that, But that isn't because religious people are better, it's because atheists don't need an organisation to do good things. They do them on their own. For example i do 3 days (24 hours) of volunteer work every week and i have done for the last 2 years, I don't do it in the name of atheism though. How much volunteer work do you do? Or do you just ride on the "good deeds" done by your organisation and then take credit for something that you actually had no hand in?

    An atheist friend of mine went to turkey when they had the earthquake, He was a water engineer and he spent 6 months there repairing water supplies, He didn't do it in the name of atheism. Another atheist friend of mine is a fencing contractor, He donated his time and money erecting fencing around a nature reserve in Malaysia to protect orangutans, He didn't do it in the name of atheism. Another atheist friend of mine regularly works in a soup kitchen in London feeding the homeless, She doesn't do it in the name of atheism.

    Atheists don't need an organisation to make them do good things, We do them on our own and we don't do them for a reward in the afterlife.

    Now you tell me one good deed that can be performed by a believer that can not be performed by a non-believer.

    If you need religion to make you do good things how can you possibly consider yourself to be a good person?

    So to sum up, Atheists don't need an organisation or a sky-daddy to make them do good things.
     
    stOx, Sep 24, 2007 IP