Have you ever wonder about the existent of GOD?

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Have you ever wonder about existent of GOD?

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  1. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #181
    How many times were you dropped? Atheism is a side.
     
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  2. comboy

    comboy Well-Known Member

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    #182
    You believe in GOD. It is good if you believe in someone, because it prevent you to do something wrong or harmful. Everyone has to believe in something or you will make a mistake. In my country, they maybe not believe in GOD, but believe in parent or old one. But it should be. That is the reason why human being imagine GOD, fairy .. or others. I know that you are easy to accept fairy is not real. But it is hard to think GOD is not real also. But do not worry. GOD is still in our mind until we are alive because we need someone to believe.
     
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  3. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #183
    I don't believe in god, gods, or any kind of supernatural inexplicable improbable impossible force or being that controls my life. I control my life. I am my own god.
     
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  4. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #184
    Sorry to burst your bubble (actually I am not sorry at all), but Christians don't get their books from amazon. We have our own Christian stores. Now, you can get more informations from:http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/12/18/061218fa_fact1

    Here's a snippet: The familiar observation that the Bible is the best-selling book of all time obscures a more startling fact: the Bible is the best-selling book of the year, every year. Calculating how many Bibles are sold in the United States is a virtually impossible task, but a conservative estimate is that in 2005 Americans purchased some twenty-five million Bibles—twice as many as the most recent Harry Potter book. The amount spent annually on Bibles has been put at more than half a billion dollars.

    Again, the most checked and attacked book in the whole history is the Bible. It has been proven to be the most historically reliable. And you say: don't use evidence from the Bible. You say don't use evidence from the world's most widely known book, which is the atheists most hated book.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #185
    So your quoted "estimate" is more reliable than accurate statistical data from the worlds most popular online bookstore? WRONG!

    It's attacked because it's wrong, It's full of lies, it condones slavery, it instructs people to murder their disobedient children, it instructs people to "rip open pregnant women" and it causes people to lose the ability to think for themselves.. it's not attacked because, As you assume, it's correct. there is no correlation between the amount something is attacked and the amount of truth it contains.

    Liar.

    I'm not saying don't use evidence from it, I'm saying you can't use evidence from it. because for it to be evidence it would have to be true, So it's impossible to prove a book contains the truth by quoting from the same book which you are trying to prove is true.

    Can't you see that? You are using circular logic. You are saying the bible is the word of god because it says it is, And that must be true because the bible is, after all, the word of god. It doesn't make sense.

    There really is no hope for you people. You are stuck in this bottomless pit of ignorance and stupidity.
     
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  6. jumpboy11jaop

    jumpboy11jaop Peon

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    #186
    you still haven't addressed this point.
    that's a sin. you should be sorry.

    most americans are christian/catholic, and most of them belong to a church. churches need a lot of bibles. They also have extra bibles, and like to replace them every few years. other places with bibles are hotels and libraries (hopefully in the fiction section), and a few homes. But does it really matter about the opinion of the public at large? in the 1800's, smoking was regarded as having no effect on your health by the vast majority of people. Eventually, hopefully, they'll say the same thing about religeon and belief in god.

    prove that it was the most historically reliable. prove that you have something to check it with all of the way down the 2000 years since it was written (made up). I have to admit. I do dislike it, as I would any book that spreads dislogic, cultism, and stupidity.
     
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  7. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #187
    Bible wasn't made 2000 years ago. Bible was made under Constantine - as he commissioned its compilation and paid for it to be done. Before him it was just a bunch of random stories.
     
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  8. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #188
    God will have no mercy on the widows and children of hypocrites. 9:17
    Read about the cruelty and violence in the bible. Either it is entirely fabricated or there exists a very cruel and unjust g-d. Just not sure which yet...
     
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  9. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #189
    Rebecca the animal lover. What a great idea: "You know little Johnny, when you grow up, you got to forget about your friends in kindergarten and instead must save the whales, or the dogs, or the sharks or whatever. Ann whatever you do, make sure you never, ever mingle with Christians. They sing nice Christmas carol songs but even though you cannot read yet, here's a link I will read to you from http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html so you will know all there is about Christianity."

    Just like according to the link above Jesus said to plauck your eye out and yet He (Jesus) gave sight to the blind.
     
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  10. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #190
    Of course we sing Christmas carols dude! Here is one of my favorites...

    Christmas at ground zero

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    There's music in the air
    The sleigh bells are ringing and the carolers are singing
    While the air raid sirens blare

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    The button has been pressed
    The radio just let us know
    That this is not a test

    Everywhere the atom bombs are dropping
    It's the end of all humanity
    No more time for last-minute shopping
    It's time to face your final destiny

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    There's panic in the crowd
    We can dodge debris while we trim the tree
    Underneath the mushroom cloud

    You might hear some reindeer on your rooftop
    Or Jack Frost on your windowsill
    But if someone's climbing down your chimney
    You better load your gun and shoot to kill

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    And if the radiation level's okay
    I'll go out with you and see all the new
    Mutations on New Year's Day

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    Just seconds left to go
    I'll duck and cover with my Yuletide lover
    Underneath the mistletoe

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    Now the missiles are on their way
    What a crazy fluke, we're gonna get nuked
    On this jolly holiday

    source

     
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  11. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #191
    The unfathomable depth of the brick wall mind.
     
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  12. jumpboy11jaop

    jumpboy11jaop Peon

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    #192
    I believe in the Scientific method. In that sense I am a 'methodist'. Nothing is true until empirical evidence says that it's true.

    but let's face it. The non-atheists won't convince the atheists, and the atheists won't convince the non-atheists.
    Why bother Arguing?
     
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    #193
    im atheist,thanks god lol
     
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    #194
    Umm, can you corroborate that statement with any sort of factual evidence?
     
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  15. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #195
    Ever taken world history? He formed the Council of Nicea which lead to more councils and those later councils, by the time he'd been dead for 60 years, decided on a final canon. In effect he did commission it as he was, indeed, the first one to commission a Council.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #196
    Jackull incorrect, the bible was actually in written form way before that but it wasnt officially ratified until the councils. I think u need to read your history also lol.

    and on the existence of god, look all around you. These universal laws could never come into being by chance. Its common sense that order cannot come from chaos. If so please prove to me one example of how its done .
     
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    jumpboy11jaop Peon

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    #197
    prove it.


    When was there chaos from the order to come out from?
     
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    #198
    I love the logic of pingpong123. Because his chimpanzee brain can't figure out the complexity of universal physics he automatically assumes god is responsible for it.
     
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    jumpboy11jaop Peon

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    #199
    I would like to point out that this argument is degenerating into
    a) 2 sides that hate each other
    b) useless taunting

    and I would like to reiterate that neither one side can 'beat' the other
     
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    #200
    Science can always 'beat' faith. it has a very handy tool it can use, Evidence.
     
    stOx, Oct 10, 2007 IP