Have you ever tried article tweaking?

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by abientot, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. #1
    Probably, all we know what "article spinning" means, but can anybody tell me what "tweaking" is? Or is it the same process? And on the whole, what is your attitude to such articles?

    Waiting for your opinions.
     
    abientot, Oct 26, 2007 IP
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    I'd consider them essentially the same. As for my opinion, unless you have the rights to alter an article, don't do it. If you buy PLR for example, and change it or improve it, that's one thing. If you go to other content sites and rewrite or "tweak" their articles, that's illegal.
     
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    I've never heard of this. Is it just rewriting an existing article?
     
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    I'm with Jenn. I don't see the difference between spinning an article and "tweaking" it to the point where it passes Copyscape.

    Altering a work that isn't yours constitutes plagiarism and that's ILLEGAL. Unless you plan to rewrite an article that you own the rights to (as Jenn mentioned above) then you are plagiarizing.
     
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  5. latoya

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    It sounds like pretty much the same process. Article "tweaking" probably makes minor changes to sentence structure, paragraph order, and article introduction/conclusion to make the article slightly different from the original.

    Of course, article "spinning" makes a completely different article than the original by changing all the words in the article.

    I would guess that "tweaking" produces a more coherent article than "spinning".

    Like Jenn mentioned, though, if you do not have the right to change the article, yet do so anyway, you're infringing on the copyright.

    Webmasters also need to be concerned about publishing content that readers can actually understand. Your site will not get revisited if you're not offering something people can read.
     
    latoya, Oct 26, 2007 IP
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    this is something i've been thinking about lately. i have a writing partner who turned me onto this forum and to the idea of article tweaking. she seems to think that it is fairly lucrative, so once we complete a few of our projects, we're going to begin tweaking articles for folks. our idea of "tweaking" is basically using the "original" article we have as "research" for a new article we will write. as many of the above posters have stated, this new article is just a revised version but revised so much that the only similarity between the new and the original articles is the topic itself.
     
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    Editing any article, even in what looks like its entirety, can be copyright infringement. So if you pursue that, make sure you're only using base articles that you or your clients have the legal right to alter or create derivative works from.
     
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    good points jenn. that makes sense. thanks for the pointers!
     
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  9. abientot

    abientot Peon

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    Thanks for your answers. Anybody knows some good tools for such "article spinning"?

    I just want to try how it works:)
     
    abientot, Oct 29, 2007 IP
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    I can't really recommend any article spinners because they spit out garbage. If you want it to sound like a robot wrote your content, sure, you can try one. But if you want something readable, you're better off buying PLR articles and having them rewritten.

    Remember - traffic itself is useless if you can't keep readers on your site for more than a few seconds. Automatically generated content will rarely attract someone's attention long enough to get them to make a purchase or sign up for your mailing list.
     
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    Have you ever edited your orignal post?

    That's basically tweaking.
     
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    :D Yeah, I tweak articles all the time. My own original articles in the very last stages of editing.

    I also tweak for clients who hire me to edit their original content.
     
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  13. eFYI

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    I just recently learned what article spinning is. It appears that it can be done for words, groups of words, phrases, or sentences. If I had time I think it would be a fun game. Something I would have enjoyed playing with my siblings as a teenager.

    The {brown/red/orange} {fox/vixen/chicken thief} {jumped/scurried/dove} {under/over/around} the {wire/wood/broken down} {fence/partition/blockade}.

    This is not really correct, but it sure is fun. I'll have to study up on all the rules of spinning. Oh, and Jenn is right. Tweaking or spinning can only be legally performed if the requester is the owner.
     
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  14. lynder

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    I would do this, but on my own articles
    But sometimes when the content that you are writing (ie effects of open heart surgery) is hard to put into your own words... It's not that easy to write original content (But that's why you should stay away from an article as hard as that, leave it to the pros)
     
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    Good advice.

    The bottomline is: DERIVATIVE works are just as protected as original works.
     
    webmasterlabor.com, Jan 28, 2008 IP
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    #16
    The ACCEPTABLE way to do this would be:

    Write ONE original article and create differing versions to submit to differing article sites/ezine compilations, etc. You should run them through a duplicate filter to make sure you are under a certain % duplicate content for each iteration. One iteration = one site submission. The days of writing ONE article and submitting it to HUNDREDS of sites are over.
     
    webmasterlabor.com, Jan 28, 2008 IP