Have I been SCAMMED out of over 950$!! by MATOMY MEDIA?

You either don't understand how business works or you are just extremely ignorant. Hello, its your just to know who you are working with. Yes they are looking for any type because their stuff usually converts more, as MOST networks do. I'm taking their side because you look stupid, and its not their fault you don't understand how things work. They are performance. Performance. Performance. So if you aren't performing how are they making money? Helloo! They aren't they get paid on conversions. So your false claim is yet again proven wrong.

No you clearly don't know what alexa is for or about.

Also - I dont care what you support. I'm not rich. I'm stating facts and laws about what the pirate bay does. They are not any where near Netflix in gross revenues and your facts are completely inaccurate.

Clearly you do things with your eyes closed like talk with out looking at facts, or join networks with out researching them...

Btw as your myths are being debunked by everyone here your half broken english is starting to make less and less sense.

 

Quote of the day.

It was a rhetorical question to encourage him to think about the nonsense he was spouting.

 

performance. Performance. Performance !!!!!!! oMg , thay didn;t tell me they are , they called himself CPM based in mail which sent to me !!!

than keep using NetFlix man and help them to grow there business after all they reall work hard but stupid is not me your are stupid because i get same things from TPB For Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ..........freeeeeeeeeeeeeee and freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee than why should i pay ?????

at last they are keep sending me mail (Your Loving Matomy ) please what happned ?? why you removed ads code from website we can work better !!!!! hahaha
and i replied FF****

nd yes i am less in english because my mother-tong is not english but i am still able to write this and you are getting all my words , but you know onlyy english and can;t write a single latter of my language !!!!! so better don't claim on this point !!!

calculation :: mantomy is a big lair they don't have CPM based ads they have only CPA adssss and call themselves we are CPM based toooo

woow !!!
only a nonsense man can answer and discusses like this with a nonsense man !!! so welcome in mY nonsense world Man

I can watch GAME Of Thorn On TPB From Freeeeeeeeeeeee..... Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and Freeeeeeeeeeeeee but you go and pay to HBO-ONE !!!

HAHAHAH who is stupid now i or you ?? you are paying for a free thing

Lastly i want to show you my one day stats of PropellerAds and Matomy on same site for same traffics in same size of ads kindly see attachments !!

PropellerAds Stats:


Matomy Stats:


Now what you want say ??? who is better ???
same in my own thinking PropellerAds is Best CPM Based Network !!!!!!!! so i am using pRopellerAda !!

in last Matomy ads network not having there own adserver they are using adk2 adserver hahahah but propellerads have there own adserver so they don't pay for adserver and pay full and good amount to there publisher


Thank You For All , after this i don't think you have to say anything.

 

So if its free how is TPB making more money... Keep making your self look stupid man. I dont care what language you speak... you speak international stupidity. You just aren't good at researching companies before doing business with them.

Free = NO MONEY. So in your fantasy world how its TPB making more money than anyone? Hellooo - welcome to reality, they aren't.

Lets see according to your stats PropellerAds.. CPM $0.11 vs Matomy CPM $0.12

Ad serving fees don't come out of RevShare payouts. RevShare is pre-adserving deduction. Meaning that companies pay for ad serving on their share of revenue usually 20 - 40% depending on the company. Yet again you are wrong.

once and for all your logic fails, looking at your numbers I would go with matomy. They have a higher eCPM so apparently even with the 17,664 impressions on 4/28 with $0.00 CPM they still pay higher than Propeller...based off your screen shots.

Now that your insanity has been proved, and we see how little you know about the screen shots you take, we can say you are wrong.

 

How little i know OmG !! and how much You Know serving here on digital points !!!

If you are good why shouting with me ??? huh ??
you have a job less guy who are here and trying to prove himself well- known !!member !!
tag don't give any proof of your knowledge you are just a little kid in this vast world , so better shut your big mouth !!

TPB get money from advertiser man not from us , and there advertiser much higher to him because TPB having vast visitors daily which netflix not have , netflix get money only from subscription !!!

as i told you in above message , TPB get income from Advertiser one of biggest ad company ExoClick !!! they pay TPB much higher than Netflix Subscription Fee , How many subscriber Netflix have ??? Huh , More Than TPB ???TPB HAVE :

""6.594.621 registered users Last updated 09:10:05.
46.794.183 peers (33.853.701 seeders + 12.940.482 leechers) in 5.661.432 torrents.""

See this data netflix have such User ???

i am talking about one day Stats !! not over all got it stats on 28/04 see again !!

and from where ad serving fee cost come from ??? from there house ?? no from these camping which they runs on publisher sites.

as i said see daily stats not over all , because over all cpm rate of propellerads is much higher than mantomy !!!

will You Prove someone what is he ?? Come-on Man @@ don't go on your well-known tag !! you are just zero in this world !! trying to live your life here on digital-point !!!

""6.594.621 registered users Last updated 09:10:05.
46.794.183 peers (33.853.701 seeders + 12.940.482 leechers) in 5.661.432 torrents.""


where is netFlix ?? Huh ???
netFlix Not Serve in Many Country Mate !! thay having limited Audition !!!But TPB ohhh My God a Big---Big Network , advertiser pay them Fro There Large source of audition !! even Google Adsense want such type of publisher but can't show there ads on TPB Cause of this stupid DMCA/COPYRIGHT LAW !!!RIP SOON DMCA

You are Paying For Things which are Free on Internet and calling me stupid ?? Geek Man go and ask with a person who is stupid in this ??paying for a free stuffs or use stuffs free by researching all over the internet

TPB is a legend who giving everything games,movies,books,software,porn...etc....etc for free and stable on internet since 2003 !!!

we stupid man don't think to to pay for this also TPB don't think so and world is going on .......You pay and be happy and a geek man , i want to be still stupid and use same stuffs For Free

P.S :
at last my research show this result ...

i was not looking for performance based ads network , i was lookng for CPM based only , when i asked to MATOmy they call me we work as CPM based to. But They are Not.
Now Researching on internet i got these :
"CPM stands for cost per one thousand impressions, or cost per "Mille," which is Latin for thousand. This metric is used by publishers to define and segment their audience and put a measurable value on it. eCPM is a different metric, used by advertisers to determine the "Effective cost per thousand impressions," or the revenue generated from a thousand impressions of a particular advertisement. eCPM is used as an ad performance metrics, while CPM is used as a reach and pricing metric."

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/info_8577335_ecpm-vs-cpm.html#ixzz30GJ29ZLI

and as You can see PropellerAds Show CPM in There stats that mean They are True CPM based Ad Network.
But Matomy Show eCPM that mean they don;t having CPM based ads and you get 0.00cent if no performance made.

So I will go with PropellerAds because they have CPM BASED ADS and accept Dump Traffics of downloading like my site.

At last , i shared only my own view !! and a Question About This Matomy ad network why they lied to me they work with CPM if they not ?? but these two Guys who think they are smart on digital-point stared with me ,,,and so on !!!
Keep Going On Guys i am here For You

Read and Research On eHOW site Link Than You got Know well-known-Guys
Both Are Far Different eCPM and CPM , so go and tell Your Matomy don't call themselves CPM based network and better correct there support who mail and divert publisher "we are CPM based TOO " hahaha fun time

 

TPB Have Much and Much Money so they are giving everything for free not small company like netflix who charge for a single song lol........netflix is cheap TPB having big heart who give anything for which you pay stupid !!

You don't know anything !! and where is your other account ??where is he ??didn't you login ??hahahah

i am not jealous man !! this is a comment on your tag that is you are just showing your self , you know very little ,there is a sentence which i am remembering ""little dangerous knowledge "

Ohh You really working For any Company ??huh !!

i am not network manager who look these things got it ??so doesn't matter to me

The Pirate Bay earned up to ($5.2 million) in advertising-with Exoshare!! without investing anything this is big amount man !
and not only exoshare who works with TPB there are 10+ popup ads network who pay same as a fix contract !!
that mean TPB income Fixed for every month

This is your data netflix have 40million register user not 45 million subscriber who are paying each and every month there are many who migrate to other ste after one month !!they don't stick with only netflix , so you can't count this income every month

you don't have knowledge about there working performance!! you are not going to look around there working management , they cheat small publisher and fill there pocket !!! this is business man we can't make money without making someone fool like these company do

i didn't tell you ??did you read eHow link which i given to you in my last message ?? eCPM and CPM both are different !! and matomy is only ecpm based company not CPM , go and read that first

why you didn't understand ?? don't you know english ??i am writing in english ,, and don't call it i am bad in this , you are same , because i not understand you too !!!!

40,000,000 Subscribers not 45,000,000 Subscribers ?? got it and these are register user not daily subscriber who are paying each month and most of them are from TPB and Release Group , who copy netflix contents by paying $10 ohhh only $10 and distribute on TPB and all over the internet for freeeeeeee !!!
you know netflix make much money but TPB cutting down there revenue hahaha STOP IF YOU CAN !!!
so paying $10 each month to netflix and make millions from distributing this on internet not a bad business !!!

this is not me saying that lines was from eHOW one of biggest wiki site !!! where clearly written eCPM and CPM both are different !! so go and read that first man!!

i told this both are different don't mix both !! you cant increases eCPM without sending performance but you can easily increases CPM by sending more and more impression !!!like propeller ads pay !!not matomy !!

i typed and see 40million not 45 million than why are you faking again ??come-on !!!
and i was knowing matomy is a performance based network , thats why i asked to support !!but he replied we work with CPM too thats why i get started with them otherwise i am not interested in CPA ads !!

15 years 0r 100 years doesn't matter !!you are talking like kid , and fighting like a 5 years old kid who want his Lollipop back !!

 

You have no understanding of what facts are or how the real world works.

Edit:

Wow. A torrent site that managed to run without any investment? No servers, no bandwidth, no hosting, no domain registration, no staff, no dev costs, no time investment, nothing at all... that's pretty impressive.

Again: you have no understanding of what facts are or how the real world works.

 

Its not about how much I know, its about what is being discussed and how diluted your facts are with fictional nonsense.

LOL Actully I’m laughing at you because you are a joke. Again you mention that I am a well known member, are you jealous or something? Lol I could careless that I am a well known member. Guess what? This stuff we are talking about? Its what I do for a living. So excuse me if I know just a little bit about it.

Looking up the company I work for on here, and looking at the clients who’s accounts I manage, and looking at their screenshots of their earnings… would provide proof that I’m just slightly qualified to speak on this subject. Oh wait, I have only been in the business 15 years.

You wouldn’t know proof if it smacked you in the face like a brick – you clearly can’t even look up a simple thing such as if a WIDELY known network is performance or not.

The only one shouting is you, getting defensive because you look stupid now.

Time to debug more of your myths. Actually Netflix has much more visitors daily than TPB. There is no chance that Exoclick is paying out TPB more than what Netflix makes per month on subscriptions alone… you know how?

As of December 2013 Netflix had 44 Million subscribers… and a growth of over 1 Million Subscribers. So total 45 Million Subscribers paying $7, $8, and $10 dollars per month. That’s $315,000,000 per month assuming all 45 million members are on the lowest plan. Sorry the pirate bay is not seeing that off of Exoclick. Lol You must be kidding.

Again you are wrong. I told you how they cover the ad serving fees. Let me give you an example… if an advertiser pays 0.10 CPM to a network. You (the publisher) earn lets say 70% RevShare… on that campaign (when its shown) you make $0.07 and the ad network keeps $0.03 which covers their ad serving and take away.

Based on the overall of the screen shots shown Matomy has a higher eCPM. So you are lying. Its even on your screen shot man you are proving your self wrong the more you talk.

I don’t understand half of this. But Again you are mentioning that I’m a well known member which means nothing. Clearly you are jealous or something because you only have under 75 posts and already people want you to shut up. I live my life working in this industry, and I know it very well. I’m on here trying to help educate people on the industry so they don’t end up like you.

Oh more babble. Netflix is at 45,000,000 Subscribers … and over $300,000,000 Per month in revenue. So if they are seeing that much on the few countries which they are in according to you, clearly they are doing much better than TPB. Advertisers don’t approach TPB directly, that’s why they use Exoclick! Oh and Google AdSense doesn’t want anything to do with sites like TPB and will ban them immediately. Premium Advertisers want nothing to do with them either.

LOL Guy if you need to google the meaning of CPM then you are having a debate with the wrong person. You should have translated your research to your native language because your incorrect conclusions are far from accurate. I’m going to decipher your mess then I’m done with this.

CPM = Cost Per Mile – Cost per 1,000 Impressions. CPM is used when an Advertiser is paying a network a price per 1,000 impressions.

eCPM = Effective Cost Per Mile. The Effective Cost Per mile is the Average CPM. All eCPM means is Average.

eCPM = Average CPM.

For example…. 2 campaigns run on your site in 2 impressions. (each campaign shown 1 time)

one is priced at a $0.20 CPM and the other is priced at $0.10 CPM.

On the 2 impressions served your eCPM is $0.15

Has nothing to do with performance since its based on CPM campaigns and the eCPM is $0.15 and that is because eCPM is the Average CPM.

Guess what? That $0.11 CPM you are getting from Propeller is really an eCPM it’s the average CPM you are getting because not all of their campaigns are paying the same rate. So they take your total earnings / total impressions * 1000 = eCPM (Average CPM). But your eHow doesn’t go into the in depth details of how things work. Don’t believe me? Ask Propeller. Matter of fact if you need someone who works at propeller to ask, let me know, I know several people who work there.

eCPM is just used to provide an average CPM. So with matomy, they are performance based… if you serve 2,000 impressions and have 1 conversion which earned $0.20 you made $0.10 per thousand. So your eCPM is $0.10

Very Simple Concept.

If a rep at Matomy lied to you, that sucks, sorry to hear, guess what? Its still your fault for not looking it up. Just like when you type in Netflix in google you can instantly see how many subscribers they have (which clearly you didn’t do), you can type in Matomy and clearly see they are a performance based network. So you are really blaming them because you didn’t do your homework and had 1 bad day with them. Really, grow up.

Not for nothing but in my 15 years of experience working for networks professionally I don’t need to look at eHow to find out the meaning of CPM. You really don’t know what you are talking about on any level. I’m not starting any thing I’m providing facts while you are on here spewing your inaccurate propaganda. Please just stop at this point.

 

oh my god here your other account !!! got this man how real world works making twin account and commenting on same lol

 

Not the same person at all, although I can see how you would think so. I mean, two people with brains talking about the same subject and disagreeing with your rubbish MUST be the same person, right?

You should take a step back and grow up before you spout such utter tripe.

 

i don't look back man !!
only you two are here and barking on me that mean both are same and work with matomy !!
support for matomy ?? ryt ??
don't shy come-on we all do this...

 

You don't read, either. I said "take a step back", as in "pause in your activity, to consider what to do next", not "look back".

Click here (especially definition 2).

Here's a free piece of life advice for you: if two separate people think you're talking crap and tell you so, you should probably consider the possibility that you are, indeed, talking crap. The ability to recognise that you're wrong is very important in life, and one that you apparently still lack.

I don't work for Matomy; in fact, I'd never heard of them until I saw this thread. I work for myself. I'm a freelancer.

 

Thankxx For This , but as i said i don't look back !! that mean i never stop , or think what i am writing here or just saying...i just write - write and keep write , so don't matter what it mean in your sense !! i can't be pause !!

there are thousand of user here on DP but only two you are here and barking on me that mean there is a connection between you both , hahaha or you just want to do war with me !!

you never heard about them ohhh so sad , that why are you here ??? just for supporting your second account , i got you man !! don't hide yourself don't shy we all do this ahh

 

That sounds like the perfect formula for careening pointlessly in the wrong direction.

Let me see. I drop in, answer a thread. You make a response, so I answer. You talk crap, so I try to help by correcting your lack of accuracy. You go babbling on and on and on for pages and pages, presumably trying to defend your indefensible point of view and unchecked, inaccurate "facts".

I may be wrong, but I'd say we're both trying to point out how utterly wrong you are, so that other people who read this thread don't act on your "advice". Or maybe we're just hoping, beyond all hope, that you might see the light and realise how wrong you are, thus correcting your headlong charge in the direction of doing everything based on incorrect information.

Personally, I don't really care either way. I'm amused by how important you seem to think TPB is, your utter lack of comprehension of real life and your adolescent (or at most University-level) acceptance of urban myth.

I only have one account. I have no need for more, as I don't babble crap and am not afraid of standing behind my opinions.

And by the way, that logic is so flawed it's laughable, as well. You should go into politics: maybe join the Monster Raving Loony Party in the UK. You'd do very well, spouting rubbish, and you'd earn more than from CPM ads.

 

Yes this is my Formula of Life any Problem ??

You drop even you don't know what are we talking about ??You don't even know about matomy and drop a answer wow !! because you think you are smart ?are you ?

i am wrong ??how ?? did you read my first to last message ?? if not go and read them first !!
let me define in short you got know am i wron or what ?
i started with my own thinking about matomy ad network , i just share my stats with comment i am not doing good with this ad network !!because they said to me we are CPM based ads but i they are paying less cpm 0.00cent!!

but your so called friend or (your other account ) started pointing me , "you don't know market and ads network , they only work with CPA based performance based !! , but still my Question was they told me we work with CPM based too not only eCPM / PERFORMANCE based !! and there are lot different between eCPM and CPM you search yourself in google or my be use eHOW link which i have given in my old post here !!
i well know what is CPM and eCPM !! but matomy lied with me , if they don't work with CPM than why they mail and told me we work ???
this was my Question , and your supporting friend start claiming , no you are newbie Go and search blaa...blaaa...and conversation going on....

where i am wrong ??
matomy still sending me mail and keep saying we can work better if you send more impression and traffic , they are still not saying we want conversation good conversation !!
if a company is not saying we want conversation , why you started with this ???

TBP is just great !! if you don't care can't say anything !!

oh really have you

Thankx For suggestion , but i am not from UK !! even not interested in politics,,, i believe in revolution !!!!!

 

Seriously there should be a ban reason for stupidity.

You absolutely know nothing, and your limited understanding of english lead to you incorrectly translating that eHow article. You are wrong in every way. I'm not friends with that guy, I dont know him, we are just 2 people who clearly know you are wrong, others probably either ignore your stupidity or are just as confused as you. You were sharing comments originally which are incorrect... they aren't paying a CPM of 0.00 how can they be paying a CPM if its performance based?! You got it all wrong. First you are claiming there is a big difference between eCPM and CPM then you are saying matomy pays eCPM now you are saying they pay a 0.00 CPM. Hello - they are actually paying you an Average CPM of 0.12 which is higher than your average CPM for Propeller!

You don't know the difference between eCPM and CPM - I literally just explained it earlier and you clearly didn't read it or understand it. You should have googled and searched about matomy before using them.

They aren't saying anything about conversions because they have campaigns which convert. Most high paying networks which call them selves CPM run performance campaigns also. Matomy probably expects that you at least researched them, looked them up, read their website, etc. I'm an Account Executive at PremiumCPM, I am not an employee of Matomy. I call stupidity when I see it.

Please do us a favor, and stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.

 

That's a good suggestion but I very much doubt that DP would follow through on it. You see if they were to bring in a ban for stupidity, we would lose too many of our members. Not going to happen anytime soon.

 

Your original post was a "review" of Matomy, in which you stated that you were removing their ads because the pay sucked. If you look at my first comment, it was based around the discussion of how shit your traffic is, which is not specific to Matomy, and that the rate is not unusual for RON ads. A perfectly acceptable comment based on your statement that their rates were bad.

+1 argument failure for you.

As far as being smart is concerned, I don't think there's any way to compare intelligence. IQ tests don't work, since they're based around pattern-matching or general knowledge, both of which can be achieved without intellect. People who join groups like MENSA are more concerned with pride than actual intellect, in my opinion. Of course, the mere fact that you resort to personal jabs and attempted insults probably says more than anything.

I haven't commented on your particular situation with Matomy at all. Your "facts" about TPB, Netflix and a whole pile of other stuff are wrong.

If you now wish to pull this entire conversation back to your original point, that's fine. I responded to your conclusion that Matomy's rates were low by noting that your rates were fairly standard for shit traffic. Since then, I have merely been following your incorrect babbling about things you haven't verified and your general inability to say anything coherent, in a vaguely interested (and very amused) attempt to see why you're so upset... apart from being caught out saying so much that's blindingly wrong.

You appear to be mixing up "CPM" and "fixed-rate CPM". But that's an entirely separate argument you're having with someone else.

Just about everything you've said about TPB, about quality not mattering, about Netflix and probably a ton of other stuff around CPM (though, as I said, that's an argument you're having with someone else).

At a guess, they don't care because they get paid anyway. It's the end client who wants conversions. The middle-man just wants his cut.

I'm not interested in opinions of or value judgements on what they do. I was commenting on your blatantly and wildly incorrect assumptions of their financial worth, compared to Netflix. If you're incapable of separating your apparent fan-boy adoration of the site from the reality of their finances, that's something you should probably discuss with a mental health professional. Or at least avoid making statements that clearly aren't true.

To sum up: as someone else has already said, it's a shame you don't like Matomy and that you think they lied to you. It's also a shame that you think their rates suck, when that's almost certainly normal for shit traffic. But you might want to consider checking facts before you post stuff you clearly know nothing about.

 

Welcome man !! you are +1 now we are three this post gonna history !!

Go and make Your Own Site If You want This Service lol jobless Guy !!

i know english very well , don't rise finger on my english you dumb man !!you just think you know everything ,but just want to say you are zero !! keep shouting here , there are many people around me like you who just keep barking on forums !!

as i told you work For Matomy so here to keep support them . earlier you said you have some clients ??i know matomy is one of them who pay you to shout on DP !!

lol and you work in part time for matomy so here to support them , but still i will be on my point they are just lairs nothing else !!

Cn't stop ,never stop !!! i will tell everyone to dont use matomy !!! they are just cheater !!!

 

I make extra income as a translator, yet I can't make heads or tail out of your post. I hate to do it but I'm now off to Google Translate to see if I can make any sense of it.