have all things a beginning and/or a creator?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by alaska88, May 22, 2007.

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    ie: a tomato comes from a seed but where does the seed comes from?
    When the world was created let's assume there was nothing so how can you create something from nothing? If you are in a room on your own between 4 walls you haven't got the capacity to create something.
    So the world didn't appear by magic did it?
     
    alaska88, May 22, 2007 IP
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    everything starts from nothing. i started my career from 0 , remember everything starts from 0. you must read the creation of earth and history behind life that should help.
     
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    kafer Peon

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    I agree with you completely on the above.
    God must have been created too, she couldn’t have appeared just by magic!
     
    kafer, May 22, 2007 IP
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    God is God, why do we as humans need to worry about it? We are not capable of even understanding.
     
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    you could create poop!
    given that yu had eaten just before being put in the room lol....
     
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    Who built those walls? :rolleyes:

    Mummy? Did god make my pants?
    Why did god make me poop my pants?
     
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    Lmao...

    That's great. Next thing you know they'll be citing the chicken and the egg. Frankly the chicken evolved from another chicken-like bird, and the very first chicken was a mutation that came from the chicken like bird. It came from the egg of a chicken-like bird, just like in humans. We came from a human-like ancestor, who was in fact also human, just an older design.
     
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    big bang -> galaxies -> stars & planets -> Earth -> life -> evolution
     
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    im sorry but what is the big bang theory? how can there be a big bang if tehre is nothing, absolutely nothing at all?
     
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    I'm sorry but what is this god theory? How can there be a god if there is nothing, absolutely nothing at all?
     
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    correct but do we need a god to have a big bang?
     
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    i think it sounds WAY more possible for there to be an all powerful God that has no beginning and no end,
    He was never created
    ( yeah its hard for you little finite mind to think of this but God is outside of time )
    So then everything was created from Him.
    OR
    there was nothing
    then something banged something (aka the nothing banged nothing)
    and TADA! here we are.....
    uh,....WHAT?!
     
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    Mostly, quantum events occur at the atomic level; we don't experience them in daily life. On the scale of atoms and molecules, the usual commonsense rules of cause and effect are suspended. The rule of law is replaced by a sort of anarchy or chaos, and things happen spontaneously-for no particular reason. Particles of matter may simply pop into existence without warning, and then equally abruptly disappear again. Or a particle in one place may suddenly materialize in another place, or reverse its direction of motion. Again, these are real effects occurring on an atomic scale, and they can be demonstrated experimentally.


    http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/big-bang.html
     
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    So you’ve decided and made it a fact that God is outside of time! I guess if I asked you how you came to this conclusion, you’d say because “I believe so”. At least the Big Bang theory is sound and based on scientific experiments. What’s your god’s theory based on?
     
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    komirad Well-Known Member

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    Also remember nothing should be beyond logic, not even God(if it exist). If something is beyond logic, then there will be no need for God to create the universe in the first place, the world will illogically create itself :)
     
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    yes, yes i have
    and when you find out where that something from nothing came from let me know ;)
     
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    Where does the universe end? Does it end?

    The questions you pose seek a tangible answer for something intangible. The answer isn't in the answer itself... it is in having the FAITH that there is an answer we simply cannot grasp. And this goes for every religion and belief... because I believe them all (generally) to be "right".
     
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