Hate Radio does not work. Air America files Chapter 11

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  1. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #61
    wow , I actually agree with lorien on something

    I don't have anything against mexicans or anything, I just don't see how anyone can say with a straight face , that allowing MILLIONS of unskilled, uneducated workers into the country is a good thing.
     
    ferret77, Oct 14, 2006 IP
  2. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #62
    *rethinks his position* ;)
     
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  3. TWalker

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    #63
    :) That was just a dig, but nonetheless has a big element of truth in it.

    People advertise because it works. Television is one long advertisement whether it be drama, comedy or a commercial.

    Now for someone who has already "made up their minds" on every issue under the sun it wouldn't change an opinion.

    But if say a 3 year old started watching horror movies and only horror movies for the next 15 years you think he/she would be any different if they watched PBS/documentaries/educational programming for 15 years?

    40 hours a week of horror VS. 40 Hours a week of education?

    Anyway I think the Internet was as big for conservatives as was talk radio, the political landscape has changed but now there are better options than the 20 year monopoly the big 3 networks had on our news.

    Cable news and Internet. Now if we just get the left wing socialist dictatorships to let their people view the Internet it could help.

    I have a few left wing views BTW.
     
    TWalker, Oct 14, 2006 IP
  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #64
    That's OK, no one does. I'm here all by my lonesome on this issue.

    If we had reasonable and economically intelligent laws on the books regarding legal immigration, I might be more inclined to agree with you.
     
    Will.Spencer, Oct 15, 2006 IP
  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #65
    I'm still on the open side. Who here can say they are really 100% "native"? I was watching some video on the news of a Mexican getting the crap beat out of him trying to cross the border. Again, things have to really suck to risk life and limb, family and all to come to such a horrible place like America.
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #66
    The Cato Institute publishes a yearly Handbook on Policy which often makes points much more eloquently than I could ever hope to.

    The current version is the Cato Handbook on Policy, 6th Edition (2005).

    Quoting from the section on Immigration:

    Congress should:
    • expand, or at least maintain, current legal immigration quotas;
    • focus border-control resources on efforts to keep terrorists out of the country;
    • create a temporary worker visa for less-skilled immigrants from Mexico and other countries to work in the United States to meet labor shortages and reduce incentives for illegal immigration;
    • allow workers already in the United States higillegally to apply for temporary legal status provided they pose no threat to national security;
    • repeal the arbitrary cap on H1-B visas for highly skilled workers; and
    • reverse the recent decline in the number of refugees accepted by the United States.
    This pretty well matches my beliefs on the topic, and the document is an excellent twelve page overview of the economics of immigration.

    If you're interested in immigration issues, I highly recommend reading through it.
     
    Will.Spencer, Oct 16, 2006 IP
  7. Dead Corn

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    #67
    Funny stuff, funny, funny, funny stuff
     
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  8. Rick_Michael

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    #68
    This is from Cato:

    Yes, and this accounts for 1/2 of illegal immigration. So traveling visa's should be given out very carefully, and not give out so easily.

    They connect.
    And the progressive movement dominated the American landscape...virtually locking the courts for a generation to the left. But I won't blame that entirely on policy...marxism traveled to America through proffesors and western Europeans as well.

    That put together with the perception of the people after the crash...I'm sure it pushed everyone to the left... through means of deception. Probably the only good thing I can see about that, was that America gained liberal views on social acceptance of others.

    Notice it only speaks of legal immigration, not illegal immigration...which there was such a thing back then. The Great Migration came in stages, and wasn't a constant flux. I like what's wrote in this quote (from a different link):

    "My point here is that our heritage is not just immigration; it is also periods of little or no immigration. Whoever who would justify on historical grounds ceaseless mass immigration like we have had since 1965 , is lying about history.(I also cannot help noting that people who appeal to tradition to justify immigration are not particularly interested in conserving our other traditions, and that our tradition of immigration is actually a tradition of European immigration, to be quite factual about it.) These pauses in immigration were key to the process of Americanizing the immigrants. Without them, as we may observe among Hispanics today, a continual flow of newcomers keeps immigrants poor and sucks them back into the culture from which they came.The Internet and Spanish-language TV only make things worse, as does the fact that Mexico is next door and has already sent 30 million immigrants. (Italy, for example, sent only 3 million total.)"

    Just to note: A third of my radio station are Spanish. I don't listen to the radio (that much), because it's a joke. It seems we're no longer America.
    ...


    I like how they word this...in a manipulative manner to the uninformed. Quotos...ha!? Chain immigration prodominately takes from latin America...deeply favoring a few countries. BS.

    ie...most immigration is chain, and prodominately from latin america.

    To a point I agree with this. We are moving towards a medical/technology based community in America. Mostly automatized.

    Chain immigration is held above intelligience....*shrug* While I don't favor limitless immigration, I think we'd be better off if we supplied certain industries of high demand.

    You can't do that directly (as written)...it would go against the 14th amendment. It would have to be sponsor-driven ie a person would have to be responsible for the immigrant coming...like a parent.

    Welfare would have to be depleted for everyone that's a citizen, not just new legal immigrants. The above is the only alternative...


    They should reduce numbers allowed from only Latin America. Of what reasoning do we let latin america dominate our chain immigration policy?

    How does this really benefit America?


    No, illegal immigrants just plan to get the vote and repeal immigration laws...period.

    Justification for more illegal immigration...lol. How about bring our poor out of poverty?...fuck them, huh? Lousy policy on cato's behalf.


    What's to say that our population that graduated high school, but didn't go on to college, doesn't need those jobs as well? I don't believe those numbers, regardless.

    Retail (which prodominately doesn't use illegal immigration) is moving towards automatization, and will put million upon million of people back into the market...it is the biggest part of the labor market in some respects. Those whom need a job, and live in America will have a hand up their ass. Some will need to work to get a better education, and others will need to fill in other labor jobs.

    Talk about the two groups that have turned into agenda-driven organizations. Sadly the union is pissing on their own constituent.


    Wow, Cato's a kiss-ass. I don't like blanketing a race as good or bad...that's bullshit. You ask for what you need and what's best,... not arguing what's the best 'race' for America. Fuck this bullshit.

    Overall this Cato arguement is rather weak. It takes historical context and tries to mix the two. We needed labor in the past (that's almost all we were), we don't as much now.

    If anyone pays attention, the highest employement replacer in America is machines...period. We are at the forefront of that incredible change. Either people recongnize that or they fall for false arguements e.g Cato's.
     
    Rick_Michael, Oct 16, 2006 IP