Weird. I am looking at 2 sites that are close to 10 yrs old. They both have ranked very well and have managed to hold out through the updates.
Are you lookin at the big daddy DC? Some of mine held up, others did not. Its very weird. Makes little sense. Its not an across the board issue like Jagger, I think its part of a law of unintended consequences.
Naming updates falls to Brett Tabke, according to Matt Cutts, and I cannot find where he has named this one... which leads me to believe that he considers this a part of jagger. So do I.
I've got three big sites (100k+ pages) going down and 4 smaller sites staying the same. There does not seem to be a pattern.
I think that's an over simplification. My site is well aged and clean, yet it took a beating. I think you just got lucky. And luck really does have a lot to do with it.
I thought it was the big daddy. I know that this was the re-structuring of the DCs but why not lump it all together?
All I know is that my main site had been hit hard by this update. Several other sites which I maintain have also been negatively affected, but not to such a significant degree.
Check out this WMW post. http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/33351-1-10.htm For me this exactly describes what I am seeing with my site that is getting hit, and GoogleGuy's comments are a huge hope for me... Page 16 is where GoogleGuy first comments.
This is all about supplemental results. My site is not out of the index and dumped in supplemental. It's just taken a tremendous blow in the serps. I'd say that about 75% of the kw's have fallen off of the map. It's very frustrating to say the least.
Mopacfan, If you're taking about traffic to this site: http://64.233.161.105/search?q=site:http://www.mopacfan.com/&hl=en&lr=&start=0&sa=N Then you do have this problem(s). Pages in the supplemental index carry very little PR and only rank for "exact" search phrases and will only appear when there are no other pages in the main index that match. Plus you lose the PR from those internal pages which means they no longer help boost your main page - which causes its SERP positions to drop. I apologize if you're talking about another site. -jay
Sorry, I should have made it more clear. I'm referring to my Project Responder site. This is the one that actually generates revenue. The other sites are just person and otherwise.
I just did a site: search on your site that is having problems, and I am seeing the exact same thing as with my site. Main page is fine, but every other page is in the supplimental index.
SOB!!! I checked just a few days ago and the results were not supplemental. I guess I got screwed by BigDaddy along w/ everyone else. Thanks for the wake up call.
On one hand it's good to know that your not completely banned. On the other, it still doesn't get you anywhere, but I hope google gets this all cleared up. I'm in the same ship as you are.
Both googleguy and MC are making statements like they don't know what is going on.... they 'suspect' they know what the issue is. This really flies in the face of those that say google ISN'T broken. It's incomprehensible to me that - considering their market share, finances, and expertise - they don't know exactly what it going on. Don't they test this stuff? Do they have programers just making changes on the fly? Are algo and other changes not thoroughly vetted before going live? Do they not consider their search engine and search results important enough to test before they implement? What's wrong with the folks at google that they would let this happen? Not this individual problem... but the lack of control, carefulness and foresight? If they don't tighten up over there, they will lose the good will of their users (searchers and webmasters) and start spiralling down. We'll start seeing articles about google employee perks being cut back (no more haircuts, massages, personal projects, pets), googleplex space being leased out to other tech companies, google's manicured lawns getting overgrown and weedy (send those programming prema-donnas out to cut the grass - the shareholders will say!). Rant done now.
The fact that google does comment on it is a huge bonus as far as I'm concerned. Try to get Yahoo to give you any information about anything at all. Not going to happen. From what I have been looking at the problem has to do with a url canonicalization issue between http and https versions of a website. Hence the https versions that are also in the supplemental index, and also explains why a lot of websites aren't having any problems.