Has anyone who has experienced the sandbox filters actually got out?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by matt-, Dec 16, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hi all,

    You see so many threads about people being in the sandbox, but none about people actually getting out.

    Has anyone here got through the sandbox filter, and lived to tell the tale? I would assume that alot of people give up, or start other projects during the long wait for the sandbox effect to wear off.

    Anyone any stories of success after the sandbox? What happened when you exited, was it gradual or did your SERP's just increase one day? How long did it take? My site is now 9 months old and im slowly starting to see more random keyword combination traffic, and my site is slowly coming up the SERPS (from out of nowhere, to page 50, then page 30, then page 25 etc..). So slowly, but hopefully surely im on my way out.

    Anyone else got any experiences to share?

    Thanks,
    Matt.
     
    matt-, Dec 16, 2006 IP
  2. aed1071

    aed1071 Guest

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    The sandbox theory is rubish. Its all about the age of your backlinks.
     
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  3. matt-

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    The sandbox is known to be a set of filters that are aged based (confirmed by Matt Cutts), so whether its the age of the domain or the age of the backlinks, its all the same when you're looking at the launch of a new website and its success in the SERPS.
     
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    my site recently got out of sanbox and it took it like 8 months i guess and now i rank well for many terms i am targeting.
     
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    In order to get out of the sandbox faster you can either get a link from a high PR page (not always working) or you can start by optimising your site (on-site seo) for very targeted kw with few searches and then,when you got out of the sandbox, you can start focusing on more competitive kw, adjusting your seo campaign accordingly.
     
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  6. matt-

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    zehrila: did you see a gradual movement up the SERPS for your keywords or did you suddenly just leap up one day?

    smartgirl: thanks for the suggestion, that tactic is one that I am using on new sites that I have launched since, at least you can get some traffic coming through while waiting for your site to age that way.
     
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    A site I worked with came out of the sandbox rather abruptly after about 6 months. So yeah, it happens. Any website-owner who thinks their site is still in the sandbox after over a year is mistaken: the age-effect of having a new domain in a competitive market should be over by then. If a site doesn't get found by then, link-building and on-site SEO should be looked at.
     
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    i've had a few sites leave the "sandbox" and yes, if you track your stats daily, you will know exactly when you're out. it always seems to happen at the same time. basically a bunch of sites all start ranking at all once, which obviously causes havoc with the serps.

    i think was proven with this last update a few weeks ago. matt cutts had said there was no update, but everyone saw drastic changes in the serps. what i assume has happened, was that every site over 6 months or so age had the new domain (or age of backlinks) penalty. the serps went crazy, and everyone assumes it must have been an update.
     
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  9. matt-

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    Thanks for the info guys, nice theory there that sites come out of the sandbox on updates, fingers crossed for the next one then! It would make sense if that was true anyway.

    It's so frustrating to see my SEO Clients websites achieving top rankings, and all my own sites bogged down because they're new. Like salt in the wound.

    Anyway, fingers crossed for the next update!

    Thanks all,
    Matt.
     
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  10. mad4

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    One of my clients got out and went from not ranking for the site name at about 9 months old to being number 3 for the most competitive keyword at 11 months old. Rankings are still the same 3 months later.
     
    mad4, Dec 22, 2006 IP
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    I was out in 4 months for one website and jumped straight to #9.
     
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    Usually sandbox last about 6 months. But, there are reports of websites which got good links (in decent amount) in first week and never went into sandbox... Some websites never go in the sandbox :).
     
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    I spent the last year building links, submitting articles, and optimizing the site. After six months we noticed an increase in traffice from Google. Still rank well in MSN and Google. Having a heck of a time with Yahoo.
     
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  14. matt-

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    Interesting results, it seems that there is hope but it can be totally random as to when you leave the sandbox.

    I think my first site is out now, but I need to do more on page optimisation, and perhaps some more quality links. It's first page on yahoo and live.com (msn) for its targetted keywords, but page 9 on google.com. If I use allinanchor: im page 1 :(

    Strange how some people have problems with Yahoo, they seemed to hate my site for ages, but just recently i've got way better results without really trying - Is there such a thing as a Yahoo sandbox?
     
    matt-, Jan 11, 2007 IP