Has anyone experimented with the 301 redirect??

Hi ..

Just curious to know, has anyone tested the 301 redirects with some domains that are banned at the SE's?

I mean, Lets says Domain "A" has been banned at Live n Google. What I do is, Buy another domain "B" and 301 the domain "A" to domain "B", will that eventually land up domain "B" being banned by the search engines too?

We've had discussions on that but never came out with a definite result, share your views, if you have tested of experimented on this..

Thanks in anticipation..

Regards
LKS

 

I would assume yes, you redirecting from a banned domain to a domain that is not banned; I'm assuming with the same content. Yes it would probably carry over the penatlies in time. I'm sure there is some type of system though to prevent someone hurting the competitions website via this method.

My basic assumption is that in time it two would be banned.

 

Hmm thanks for sharing the views, However, I have a little disagreement there, First of, if that's possible, we can surely ruin our competitors using that 301 wizard.. And I am sure, google isnt gonna leave a loop hole as such..

Second, "if the content is same" Hmm Interesting point, I am sure, after being banned, many wold choose to make some changes and then establish that to a new domain, so lets revise, the content isnt same..

In that case I think there should be no penalty at all..I was looking for some one with a banned domain to have an experiment, cudnt find one anywhere..

So concluding with your basic assumption, if eventually both will be banned then I can ruin my competitiors... no?

 

Also, Does any one has a banned domain to offer? just to experiment what exactly happens?

Course you all could share a lil more stuff..on this..I am looking for some particular real time scenarios..

Regards

 

301 redirects have worked a treat for me and the clients I work with.

I new of someone pointing 40 domains to his one website (not via 301 redirects). And he had atleast three listings of page 1, multiple domains doing well for him.

 

My question is not that it works or not, I know it works lol.. I just wanna know, if a domain is banned, and then u redirect the same domain on a new domain will the new domain be banned too eventually?

 

Yeah i do, it's got 150,000 backlinks (a ton of PR5/4/3) and isn't even cached in Google but ranks fine in other engines with 1,200 cached pages.

I don't care what happens to it, so if you want to test anything with it send me a PM.

 

Hey Loveskills,

Please keep us informed whatever your outcome is. It is something really interesting and we would like to know the result.

Thnx.

 

Hey Sweetfunny..

Glad you are ready to offer the domains Thanks

Umm What I would want is that if you could setup a redirect 301 to one of the normal domains, I guess, I have one..Will send u a PM right after I choose the real garbage domain out of my list

Will be sending that in some time..Thanks though..

@eternal_seo: Sure once everything is set, we will keep this thread alive by informing u all..

 

Got your PM, and my domain is now 301 to yours.

It will be good to see if the 150,000 backlinks from my banned domain helps or harms yours.

I'm pretty certain it won't harm it, how much it helps will be interesting to see.

 

Sure Thanks for supporting..

We have 2 cases to consider:

1. If the site doesnt harm my site, then it would conclude that its pretty easy to come out of google's penalty by getting a new domain and using the same old domain as a 301 forward..

2. If the site harms my site, then Disaster

The Test is on, any one who wants to join in is most welcome to share and gain

 

Although I shud have updated this thread earlier, but here it is:

We are into a test now, Sweetfunny's is kind enuff to lend his domain for this test, and here is what the setup is like:

Domain: www.digajax.com has been 301'ed to www.timesdaily.info

digajax.com is a domain banned at google with numerous backlinks, and the point of observation is, weather it gets the timesdaily domain banned as well or the site remains as normal it is..

The thread is open for your views, Please share/contribute in case you would like to throw in a point or two..Thanks..

 

It will also be interesting to see what happens with the DigAjax domain, if Google forgives it or leaves it as is.

You should throw a site up on TimesDaily, that way we can see how the rankings go as the backlinks from DigAjax get attributed to TimesDaily.

 

Ahh yes..I am about to change its host and will eventually add up a site on there.. soon.. the work is on..stay tuned

 

repeating the post from seo chat



I dont think it will get banned,
G may look into the whois of the 2 owners,
The place where it is hosted., (if its in same server or not)
the inbound links of the other domain to which the banned domain is redirected to.,
and more.,

If possible you could try hosting the banned domain and the other domain on the same server.,
Have the same whois infos for both the domains.,
See that the other domain is new without any inbound links and try the test

 

Ok answering it from the owners/webmaster view,

If a domain is banned, his tendency would be keep the domain on another server/host (pyschological reasons) Hence the Hosts are different.

Second, yes google is a registrar itself so its easy to track who is stuff.. But, pretty much possible, if a domai is banned the owners tendency would be to avoid the same, trying to avoid as much similar circumstances..I am not sure If I am ale to put my self correctly.. but i am trying..

Like I said, A webmaster would actually try to shift the host with the new domain thinking, Oh noo I got banned while I was this host, lets change the host this time and do something different..

Keeping that in mind, the test is done randomly on 2 random domains, which shud bring some points out as the time flies by..

Regards

 

Thatz the reason why it might not work,
1) random domains with random who is with different servers means, G might think the 301 maybe done by some crazy guys to tamper the other site.,

 

But the reason, like I said, If a domain is banned, the webmaster would actually avoid the same host, hence a new host with a new who is? I dont think its an abnormal thing to notice, many webmasters would actually do the same.. Its quiet common..More over we can have tons of speculations, I guess those all shud be assumptions..

Ok, then like you said,

Can you conclude that if a domain is banned 301 the banned domain to a new domain with a new who is/server and it will come out of its penalty?

I guess even the answer to this would have the word "I Think" in it..Coz we arent so sure about what exactly happens..

 

no , i mean to say only this,
A domain is banned by G because, the domain owner has done something wrong ., doing a 301 to a new domain would do nothing to the new domain unless he is crazy enough to host it in the same servers with the same whois infos.,

 

Sure, I understand your point, and I admire the fact, that its true, but some how, it doesnt provide a definite answer to the question..so to be sure of it, we will keep on experimenting what say?