Has anyone been successful in submitting website to DMOZ recently?

And I still value its place in the market.

I just get a little frustrated as my site is not listed, whereas all my competitors are. The fact that my website offers more than them is upsetting as they can always turn round and say "we are on DMOZ".


The other sad thing is, I will always rise to it too.

I dream of the day I can say I am on DMOZ

Andy

 

By the way, talking about Becoming an Editor, here's what written on DMOZ:

I bet they do ROFL

 

Well Rezo, I am obviously a very naive fellow because until a few months a few months ago I had never heard of a bidding directory like yours. When I first heard of them I thought someone was kidding me. But yet they are true . The more you pay the higher up in the directory you get ranked. Nothing else matters just the dollars.

What has this do with you rolling on the floor laughing at the thought that someone might do something for an altruistic reason ? Well it demonstrates the massive gulf that has developed between the real world of people who use the Internet as a resource and those who view it as a way to make a buck at any cost.

If people who seek to foster a free and accessible Web are a joke and those who defer to the highest bidder are the future then may god help us all.

 

Why do these altruists get bribed then?

I see no connection between the DMOZ editors and bidding directories, IMHO you just generalized. These are two different things.

DMOZ is a free directory where theoretically editors don't get bribed and sites are getting approved depending on their respective quality. Is that true? No. For 3 years I submitted various of sites to DMOZ (which IMHO deserved to be in DMOZ) and none ever got approved. Oh sorry, approved? None ever got REVIEWED.

I understand they have a lot of work there and they aren't obligated to do anything for free, BUT what really pissed off is when a friend of mine told me a DMOZ editor sent him an email telling he'd charge 300$ for including his site in the category he manages. Altruistic? Not really.

And I bet that the most editors out there, are this way. I don't claim that they are all that way, but most are. Cruel & true reality.

 

Why would we bother to sell our integrity? Any editor is free to start their own directory and make it a paid directory, as you have done. It ain't exactly rocket science, anyone can build a directory. You've certainly proven that, .

 

If that was meant to me, I'm guessing anyone can become an editor too. Quoting you:

 

one of my friend successfully submitted his site to DMOZ . its just 7 month old site and got approve

 

With proof of abuse the only thing that may be said is "well, Staff made the decision, so there is nothing we can do" The ODP was founded on the abuse of it's guidelines, is it any wonder people do not trust the report abuse system, or bother to even use it? It does stand to reason that the founders are leading by example, so whether or not you do not have a site and are an editor, it's more then clear that some active editors have many sites, all of them listed, some of them automatically listed (human edited? Hardly!) and that they are the proof that deeplinks can in fact be the norm...

If one editor can abuse, why can't the rest? With all the accusations of abuse throughout the entire directory, one would think the directory would clear all instances of it up to prove that such things do not happen. As that is not the case, there is not much slander in saying abuse happens... abuse is supported from the very top!

If you want to say that Skrenta was not paid, then fine, head over to scriptlance, or other freelance link building sites and see just how many people are taken up on their offers for an ODP listings... and then look at the actual quality of many of the sites listed that have not changed in years. It does seem on some level that some can pay to get in... the sites that do not meet the guidelines are there, and the evidence of paid listings on auctions sites are there. Name editors? Name sites? What editor or site owner would be crazy enough to give themselves away? If I could try to weed out some paid editors, I'd get my sites banned... so no, I'll not fill out an abuse report.

 

Oh now I got it.

You're just trying make us think you're one of those

DMOZ is dead and you and all the other editors know it. That's why the editors try to get the maximum profits out of it and move on.

crowbar,

Control your words.

and what I told don't have anything in comment.

Anyhow, there's no point talking about DMOZ editors anymore because who knows what other altruist will call me a

for telling the truth.

 

Truth is usually easy to back up with proof of some sort. If you have any, back it up by filing an abuse form. Not to do so means that you either have no proof and your statement is slanderous, or you approve of the alleged abuse.

To cry foul when you receive the same kind of treatment in return is a little disingenuous. If you can't take it, then don't make false, slanderous remarks.

 

Another of your smoke screen postings.

Last time you claimed that you had no knowledge about "do not list" list in DMOZ and when I confronted you, you backed off and claimed you could not discuss it because of secrecy. You know very well that abuse reporting is totally useless in DMOZ when so many Admins and Metas involved in the abuse.

 

I've submitted a site and it did not take long to be approved

 

That's good to hear. The Directory is a monster, and volunteer editors edit in categories they find interesting or have some knowledge of.

For awhile, I edited a Water Gardening category because I have one, and that expanded off into editing a couple of categories in a different part of the Directory about water gardening plants and Koi fish.

That's how it goes with editing. I also have a large interest in listing sites for small towns, villages, and cities, so I edit at the country level and everything beneath it. (every category within the United States, which is considerable)

I may work in one state, one day, and another state the next day, and as there are 50 states, I move around a lot.

Other editors might edit in just one small category, or in 4 or 5 small categories. It depends on what their interests are, how much free time they can volunteer, and how much they enjoy editing, .

Large areas of the Directory have no resident editors, because not many people are willing to work for free, and those of us who can get to those areas are spread pretty thin, so it's a hit and miss type of situation.

Apparently, with your site, there was either a resident editor or an editor named in a higher category, who happened to be working in that area, at that time. Other areas may not see an editor for a long time. That's just the way it is.

Even were we a paid directory, if there are 100,000 sites and only 10-20 editors to handle them, common sense tells you a fast listing is very doubtful.

 

Well you are paid directory since anybody can buy a listing for less than $100 in less than 10 days. Too bad the money is not going to the DMOZ owner AOL and instead is going to editors.

 

Well, thanks a lot for tellin me, I'll close my business down right away, .

 

So, how I can I tell whether my submission has even been viewed?

 

When you see it listed in the Directory, you'll know it's been reviewed, otherwise there is no way to know.

Whether a site suggestion gets accepted or not, once you've submitted a site suggestion, there's nothing more you can do so you really shouldn't worry about it.

Editors build categories by using a variety of sources, submitted site suggestions are one of them, but we are not providing a listing service so there's absolutely no hurry or time frame for possibly listing them.

 

Thanks, I thinks it's because I was always told having a DMOZ listing was the ultimate goal, its always been a target of mine to get there.

 

The people who believe in DMOZ also believe in the Easter Bunny.

 

I think a listing in the Directory might help, but I wouldn't want my business to ever depend on any one thing for success. Cyber businesses have it a little rougher because they depend so heavily on cyber traffic.

Brick & mortar businesses use a website as just one of many informational tools that they normally use. Cyber traffic is not the engine that drives their business, it's just an additional tool that does a little more than regular advertising can do. It's a little more in depth.