Has Anybody heard of "Q"The Cash Gifting Expert?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by daytona313, May 9, 2007.

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  1. Rage

    Rage Well-Known Member

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    :mad: I dont know how DP mods are so easy about this thread....

    Its have nothing else but all F***** Spam....

    Come on... close this thread
     
    Rage, May 22, 2008 IP
  2. clinc

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    First of all why does "what's his face" think everyone is spamming? I hate spamming too but it sounds like people are just speaking from experience and giving their opinions. Man it's rough here.
    On that note, "You have to join my exciting new program$$$" Kidding.
    I have done my "due diligence" with cash gifting. I was always fascintated by it and I thought in theory it should work. I was one of those 'idiots' in the 90's that put my money into a gifting circle or what was it refered as ??? A pilot something...i dunno. Those just don't work (for the majority of us). One person was on top and then 12 people had to gift to that one person before the next could move into position. Very much a pyramid and unfortunately gave gifting a bad name.
    What I found is that there are about 6 main gifting programs out there and they are essentially the same. The thing is getting the right support because there is more to it then people sending you a bunch of cash.
    I like the philosophy behind it and I have seen from myself and others a lot of success with it. The saying, "If it sounds to good to be true..." in my opinion doesn't apply to gifting because it is a process and is based on building relationships and mentoring and creating leadership and fine tuning marketing...and not just "let's get all hyped up and people will send you thousands in cash".

    I have a review of all the main programs and NO i did not write it but I feel it's honest and details the differences. Sorry I wrote way too long. I just don't like hype. Do your homework before you denounce gifting or get all hyped up and jump in blindly. I am also available to talk with you. Contact me and I will send you, "Gifting Programs Reviewed"

    Charlene
    www.wealthdelivered.com
     
    clinc, May 25, 2008 IP
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    Yes, I did appreciate the opportunity, 1400 or 6600. And no disrespect taken. I value criticism and love the feedback from others.

    But, I'm talking about MY truth and experience. I'm posting what has happened to me in Q's plan. And it's great and I'm glad you're experiencing the success that you are now experiencing.

    But, what do you want me to post if....

    1- I can't get a hold of Q no matter how many emails and/or calls I place to try to get a hold of him.
    2- A person that I enrolled from Canada didn't even get her id# after she sent in her money. I felt really bad for her because she was excited about getting started. She borrowed the money to enroll, and nothing.

    Anyone reading this, if you contact me (redfox76@gmail.com) I'll give you her info to verify yourself.

    I did what I was told to do, which was setting up the 800 number, ordered a whole mess of postcards, even used the leads that were recommended. And nothing.

    Since this was what happened to me, why do I get knocked for posting? All I'm writing is my truth.

    And since, I've been involved with TOCS (www.megacashgifting.com), I've been able to actually see what and where my prospects/optins are coming from. I can choose to call them if I want to, and getting a hold of someone is just a phone call away.

    Hey Det313, I'm extremely happy that everything is turning out swell for, and hopefully it'll continue to do so. If I was experiencing different, this post of course, would've been different too : )

    But it didn't work out for me. My loss was a little over 2500 (enrollment and marketing expenses), so I can say I wasn't too happy for that.

    Have a great day everyone.

    Kindest,

    Jay Ortega
    646-427-8984

    www.megacashgifting.com
     
    redfox76, Jun 3, 2008 IP
  4. SoYouNeedMoney

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    Hello All,
    I would just like to give some input from the perspective of someone who has been in the gifting arena since 2003. Maybe a little comparison and advice to anyone who is considering. I will attempt to not show my bias here as to which 1 I am in so you can make up your own mind.

    First Off Q's program has been around the longest -around 11 years. I looked at it because I do like the big dollar amounts. Negatives in my book are 1) you keep having to rebuy back in and reinvest even if you are still in the red. 2) All the advertising is completely controlled by Q - for instance Q is making money off of those post cards that redfox had to keep buying and in my opinion post carding is the least cost effective of all the advertising methods out there. Especially if you belong to a site like this you should be able to generate quite a bit of cheap to free leads via internet. You also must give every 5th sign up to Q.

    Next highly automated program TOCS - The Online Cash System. Has some decent automated websites that you can send people too and advertise. They also help out with closing and advertising because they get an admin fee from everyone that joins i.e. $500 level +you pay admin $200 to join as well and for that increases the higher you go - so a $10,000 join and the member pays additional $1000 to admin + monthly site fees and blaster services and you can advertise as you see fit.

    The rest are very similar to each other. The bigger and more stable ones are TLC2003(aka noss123) CashArrives365 and SOW (spirit of wealth). TLC boasts the most members out of all the gifting programs and has been around the second longest of all of them at over 6 years. TLC has a marketing focus simply inviting people to 1 of 15 live conference calls held weekly and not a terribly strong online presence-providing mostly just capture pages for the online folks. They do pack out their calls with a couple hundred on each of their 15 live calls. Cash Arrives has 5 live calls per week with a moderate number that show up but have a much higher internet presence with internet marketing tools rivaling TOCS. The others are all a cross between Arrives and TLC and are fairly new in comparison with far fewer people. Just a comparison of sheer numbers TLC boasts around 50,000 members while Cash arrives is more like 3-6k members. All the others not compared here, added up, probably have a total member base that would equal C.Arrives365 total. The nice thing about the ones outside of TOCS and Q is you only put your money in one time - give a one up qualifying person one time and then pay a yearly hosting/tracking fee between $100 and $120 yearly. Thats it -no huge chunks continually flowing out of your pocket.

    I purposely did not include ELITE here because it is an entirely different structure and by far not as high profile as all the others.

    Do these things work - absolutely. Are they a scratch and win lottery-absolutely not. You have to work them a couple hours a day, consistently, you must talk to people, you must be in control of your own advertising and have a surplus of leads to call daily. Even the ones who go through an entire internet system need to be called. NO ONE sends 500 to $10,000 via the computer without talking to a live person. If you're afraid of closing, TOCS does help a bit with that but if you want 100% of the money to come to you the other one ups are a bitter fit.

    Nothing beats $100 bills showing up at your front door.
    I am sorry to hear of your struggle Redfox but it appears you ma have found one that works for you.

    I personally have been in one since 2003 and have been a trainer in one of the most prominent ones. In fact if you hear an audio testimony of Ed From Ohio-truck driver who quit job in 19 days-on one of those sites that would be me. I am revealing that , not to brag, but to also reveal to you all, that the audios and youtube movies you see all over the internet, have been mix and match and they take those testimonies from each others programs. For instance, I have heard my audio testimony in 4 or 5 different programs LOL.

    Oh well, Good Luck if any one is considering those. Feel free to ask me anything you like and I will do my best to get you the answer...I do like to help people.

    Also, I hope that this did not appear spamalicious as I made a conserted effort to not do that.
     
    SoYouNeedMoney, Jun 19, 2008 IP
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