Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows

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  1. skibladner

    skibladner Peon

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    #61
    I hear Mcgonagall bears a litter of kittens?
     
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    #62
    Yes, I read a tad to see if it's real, but Im waiting for the real thing myself.
     
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  3. RoyalSeo

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    #63
    Well,I am not a big fan of harry potter books but I do like to watch the movies
     
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    #64
    You need to read the books to fully understand the plot that JKR has created. The movies do not cover everything, and without the books, it can get a tad difficult to understand it
     
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    #65
    Yeah your right, the whole story of the book does not show in the movie, they simplify it to make it shorter.
     
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    #66
    Im so excited, and I just can't hide it.. I know I know I know I want you!

    13 days until the book! A few until the movie!
     
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    #67
    Harry and Herminee go off to college togather, get married have 2.3 kids, then divorce 7 years later:D

    Cheers
     
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  8. The Webmaster

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    #68
    Hermione is Ron's girlfriend, Harry is with Ginny. Think, you havent read Half Blood Prince then ;).



    I have been reading Old books to thread everything togather.

    Harry is indeed a horcrux, and it doesnt violate the prophecy.

    Point 1. Harry Potter is a horcrux it's been clear in Order of phoenix. Harry carries a part of Voldermot's soul. He create his 7th horcrux when he tried to kill Harry. May be unintentionally and may be Voldemort doesnt even know it.
    Or he might have realized when harry broke into his mind in book 5.

    Point 2. The Prophecy says,

    The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches... born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies... and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not... and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives... the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies...


    neither can live while the other survives... It doesnt say that one should remain alive. both cant exist togather, but both can die togather.

    Point 3. but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not... Killing Voldemort is not an impossible task. after destroying all the horcrux anyone can kill Voldemort. Think, if harry destroyed all the horcruxes, and then snape kills harry potter. Snape can kill Voldemort too. it wont be a big task for him as he is one of the best wizards himself.

    But what is the power Dark Lord knows not? He doesnt know how to love, thus he doesnt forgive. Harry potter is full of love. This is the Power Voldemort doesnt know.

    I have learnt that creating a horcrux takes an act of murder and pure hatred. Killing should be intention and killer should enjoy it. (From Half blood prince)
    If hate creates horcrux then love can destroy it. Thus it doesnt mean that harry Potter has to die.

    The boy lived once, and I am sure he will live.
     
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  9. anions

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    #69
    If Voldy doesnt die, that leaves the world to wallow in misery and his evil for eternity.

    No writer that has a brain larger than a peanut will leave the entire world under the kingdom of evil for eternity...

    So Voldy dies for sure, we'll wait and see if Harry goes with him too :D

    PS: I hate the freaking movies...
     
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    #70
    Well not really. Now J.k has always talked about dementors and their ability to suck the soul out of someone. So imagine if a dementor will suck harry's soul out meaning the part of him that is voldemort making harry in no way conected to the dark lord this way voldemort can be killed without killing harry. Just a thougth.
     
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    #71
    HARRY CAN"T BA A HORCRUX! You have to say an enchantment when you kill someone! Voldemort didn't say one!
     
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    #72
    There is no enchantment or spell other than Avada Kedavra required for creating horcrux.
    In book 6th where Albus Explains horcrux to harry, Slughorn's memory told Tom when he asked how to create a horcrux

    "By an act of evil... the supreme act of evil. By commiting murder. Killing rips the soul apart. The wizard intent upon creating a Horcrux would use the damage to his advantage: He would encase the torn portion..."

    "There is a spell, do not ask me, I don't know!" said Slughoin shaking his head like an old elephant bothered by mosquitoes. " Do I look as though I have tried it. do I look like a killer?"

    Now we all know that Avada Kedavra is that spell. So other than that there is no mention of any enchantment or spell..

    A horcrux contain a part of the killer's soul, To destry the killer all of his soul(Horcrux) is required to destroy.

    From book 5 we know that harry contains a part of Voldemort's soul, Voldemort had done it unintentionaly thus he created his last horcrux as harry potter.
     
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    #73
    I'm pretty sure Voldy doesn't pay his taxes, so he could get all the Horcruxes he wants. :rolleyes:
     
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    #74
    This is what im getting :D


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    #75
    I am not sure what did you mean..:confused:
     
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    #76
    There is a fanfic which details the process of making an horcrux. It is the author's imagination, but the theory works well. I don't have it currently, need to look for it.

    Secondly, the Avada Kedavra doesn't look like the spell required for the creation of an horcrux. If you need to kill some one, can't you do so by aiming a cutting curse at his neck? Or aim a reducto at the front side ? Intent plays a role, and the intention must be to create one...an additional spell to encase the torn part of the soul must be there

    By what Dumbledore estimates, it looks like most of the horcruxes are inanimate, barring Nagini. And webby, how do we know that Harry contains a part of Voldy's soul from Book 5?
     
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    #77
    No other curse is meant to kill the person, Horcrux is a dark magic, It needs intention of killing. Victim of any other curse like reducto or cutting curse can survive. only AK is the curse that makes sure that the victim is dead as a dead. so when the intention is killing someone one would choose AK not reducto or any other curse.

    That gives the hint that living kind can also be a horcrux. We know that Harry contains Voldemort's soul (A Part of it).
    (Ref: Chamber of secrets - When harry wonders how he can speak parseltongue dumbldore explains -

    When harry had dreams as if he is seeing thru a snakes eyes, and he can feel what voldemort is feeling, whether he is happy or outraged.
     
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    #78

    Don't pretend to be more of a Harry-Potter geek than me:mad::mad:
     
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    #79
    Sorry, Sir Harry Potter geeker than all. :eek:
     
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    #80
    Everyone i meet says that dumbledore's inst dead. I mean there cud be some mysterious way he cud return, but i don't get the point why that wud happen.
    He gone foreva
     
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