Hard to find any quality financial sites, why is that ?

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by Bashir Naimy, Dec 27, 2014.

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Why do people create these crapp sites

Poll closed Jan 10, 2015.
  1. They dont know any better and think its easy money

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    66.7%
  2. They actualy believe its a good design and that it will be a successfull site

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    33.3%
  1. #1
    Hi guys and girls,

    Just want to talk about why there are pretty much zero quality sites in the forex , stock and in general financial area. Some of the sites are so bad it hurts just looking at them, and when someone says "check this quality site" and what i see is the same but ugly and old theme been used a million times on a million different sites in the same niche . Some of these sites might have some decent trafikk, but i have a hard time believing that a reguler web surfer would want to return to such a site, its the SEO that keep the site alive to bring in new surfers from the look of it.

    The same can be said about many many other area Health, sport, beauty and so one...the list is long. Why are people wasting their time and money with churning out these websites that just dont have a future and is just the same old crapp taking from some other site. They can hardly be making any money with this, if that is the goal.

    I was a professional forex trader many years back, but i still have the passion for it and try to keep myself up to date. But finding a good site with some decent content is just not possible. And alot of the sites that are ranking in the search engines are sub par at best and not really worth it. I was interested in purchasing a site, but what i find here and on flippa is just junk...and they want top dollar for those junk sites that i could make myself in a few hours. Feels like flippa is just a den of scammers peddling their snake oil. I did look around here to ,but the sites are just put it simple "crapp"

    This encouraged me to invest some money into my own forex site and get one that can stand out in the crowd and build a community around it . Hopefully it will be done within 3 months time, and its done by a design bureau in UK and will cost me about 10k usd.

    I guess what i am wondering about is, why are there so many of these crappy sites flying around and are people in the illusion that they will make it. Or is it that people think that its a get a few bucks for little work. From my own experience starting a site from scratch is hard work and takes quite some time (1-2 years) before it really gets some traction assuming you put some effort into it. Making some Money of out if is out of the question the first years, and not really much to be had the second year.

    Hope you guys and guys can enlighten me somewhat, and answer some of my long rant about this subject.

    Cheers
     
    Bashir Naimy, Dec 27, 2014 IP
  2. JEET

    JEET Notable Member

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    You are right that a good looking theme is needed, but if your forex site can provide something distinct, your visitors will return even with a bad design.
    I'm saying this with experience. The NSE ( National stock exchange of India ) site in my signature was down for almost an year because burst.net (my VPS provider) went down. However, I reuploaded the site with the same bad design a week ago and most of my visitors are returning back. I don't know how they are finding the site, because it's too soon to see the same search rankings this site used to have, so it's not from SEO, but somehow they are finding it, bookmarks probably, I don't know.

    I never cared about the design because initially the site was just for me alone.
    After my training in stock market as technical analysist, I wanted to keep track of stocks, their movements, chart patterns etc, and wanted a presentation that was convinient for me. So I never thought about adding "charts made in flash" etc.
    I made the site for my PC, but because I move around a lot so instead of storing the site on my PC, I uploaded it to my VPS so I can access it anywhere.
    Somehow the site started picking traffic and even ranked on first position on google for various terms which brought in more traffic.
    If I remember correctly, I made it in July 2012, and I uploaded it online 2-3 months later. When the site went down last year, I had about 6K registered members on it and many more using it for just charts and patterns.

    I never got a chance to monatise it though. I did add a logo (the banner) later down the line, and some text (messages, notes etc) for visitors so they would understand the site better.
    The homePage is still empty, and you'd feel as if the site is incomplete or whatever... But again, it's just for me, and if someone else is using it and finding it useful for them, sure welcome. :D
    I never cared about the theme, but the visitors who found it useful are rediscovering it somehow.

    Best wishes for your new forex site! :)
    You really are spending a lot on it, and I sincerely wish the success of your site!
    Would you like to share the URL. I know it's not live yet, but I'd like to bookmark it for when you launch it.
    Please stay in touch.
    Best wishes :)
     
    JEET, Dec 28, 2014 IP
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    COBOLdinosaur Active Member

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    I will keep this short and to the point. Most crap exists because the decisions are made by managers who have no clue about web development. Then the site is designed by a designer in the marketing department who does not have much programming experience. Then by the time it gets to the development stage they eithe hand it over to a c++ programmer who has very little experience with web development; or they are almost out of budget so they do it on the cheap by hiring a webdev wannabe.

    Unfortunately, there is nothing that prevents anyone from claiming to be a web developer, so all the idiots floating around; doing cheap junk hurt the real professionals. BTW expensive does not guarantee quality; sometimes it just means a better line of bull****.
     
    COBOLdinosaur, Dec 28, 2014 IP
  4. Bashir Naimy

    Bashir Naimy Member

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    Here is the UR JEET , currently just a standard Wordpress 4.1:

    www.forexjunkie.com

    I am really considering changing the domain name thought, bought this one for 500 usd.
    Not sure if that was such a great deal, but there are a few other domain names..but those are in the
    50k range and not withing my range.

    And i think Cd& is thinking more of a business type of scenario, since most FX sites are by private people and
    the decicsions are mostly taken by 1 person or tops 2 . But i do agree with his thought, at the research instiutte i work at its the same shit there.
    You have managers who dont know shit, and the final product always ends up looking like shit and going way over budget.

    From my experience With doing website project for my employer this is what i have found out :

    1: A Developer is not always a good designer, in most cases he sucks at designing.
    2: A Designer is not always a good coder, in most cases he sucks in coding.

    Very rarely will you find somene who can master both, so its a good idea to get it done seperatly.
    And my other experience is that if you are not experience in findind the right people, stay away from sites
    like freelancer since there is alot of amatures pretending to be professionals.

    Here is a tip :
    Go to the themeforest forums, and post you job there.
    There you can find the elite designers and coders, sure they will
    charge you more but the results are excellent.

    If i count all the money and time i wasted in freelancer it would have been alot cheaper to
    just go to themeforest forums and do it right the first time.

    And if you want a giggle, and look at the posting were they
    are saying "killer design" and Premium design lol


    Thanks again
     
    Bashir Naimy, Dec 29, 2014 IP
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    Thanks for sharing the URL. Thats a nice domain!
    Why don't you start building links right away?
    Instead of hosting the blog on forexjunkie.com , you can host it on blog.forexjunkie.com or forexjunkie.com/blog
    and redirect (301) forexjunkie.com to blog.forexjunkie.com or forexjunkie.com/blog
    Later when you have your site ready, just remove the redirection, and put a link on your blog to your main site.

    In 3 months time you can make many posts on the blog, which will later serve as content for your main site as well.
    Plus the links and visitors you will get in these three months will be useful.

    Best wishes


     
    JEET, Dec 29, 2014 IP
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  6. Bashir Naimy

    Bashir Naimy Member

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    That really does sound like a great, idea Jeet :)

    I allready have around 500 Unique articles ready, 1000-1500 Words each...so will have enought content to start.
    Will also be uploading 50-60 gig With content as well , so got quite a few Things to on the plate :)

    Will also consider hiring a SEO firm to do SEO for the first 6-12 months to get some trafikk.
    Going for longtail keywords, as the more competitive keywords are impossible to rank for, mostly
    brokers are ranking for them. ANd i think their SEO Budget is miles higher then mine lol

    Thanks for the suggestion m8, appritiate it
     
    Bashir Naimy, Dec 29, 2014 IP