Had offer from company on this domain

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by humbug01, Nov 11, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hi

    I currently own Alupack.com

    I have approached Alupack.net to see if they would like to buy the domain, Their sister company www.proempaques.com have emailed me back with a offer of $100 on this domain name as they say it is all they can afford as i have apporached them before

    There is not a trademark on this domain Alupack.com and they used to own the .com but let it drop and are now using Alupack.net

    What kind of price should i be looking at for this domain name, Alot of the other ext are taken

    If anyone would like to sell this domain name for me on a commision basis please pm me or would like to buy this domain off me give me a pm, maybe you could get more for it

    Any ideas guys

    Thanks

    :)
     
    humbug01, Nov 11, 2006 IP
  2. slipxaway

    slipxaway Active Member

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    #2
    Personally I think you should take the $100 and be damn glad Alupack isn't suing you for TM infringement.

    Your parking page has ads for the same products they sell... It doesn't get more obvious as far as bad faith goes than that.
    You might not think there is a TM, but there is.
     
    slipxaway, Nov 11, 2006 IP
  3. humbug01

    humbug01 Peon

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    Hold on a minute , i have searched and can not find a trademark for this at all

    Does it not mean that all the other ext that are taken are trademarks also then?

    I stand corrected if wrong but please show me some evdience that this is a trademark domain, Also with regards to ICANN, in past cases neglect of a company to renew the said domain does go in my favour if indeed there is a trademark dispute as it shows they are not particluary interested in keeping the domain in ICANN view, i will find some doc to uphold the ICANN theory

    :)
     
    humbug01, Nov 12, 2006 IP
  4. slipxaway

    slipxaway Active Member

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    A name doesn't have to be registered in order for it to be a TM, they just need to prove that it was used in commerce before your registration. And by just owning the domain, you aren't necessarily violating their TM, it all comes down to what you use it for. If you created a site that sold computers, you'd be fine...

    And yes, the neglect to renew a domain does go in your favor if you were using it for something legit, but you've already proven bad faith by trying to sell the domain to the TM holder and by displaying ads for products that are related to their business on your parking page. If it went to UDRP, you'd lose.

    But the main point is, no one will want this domain other than the TM holder, so you should take the $100 and be happy you got that. Otherwise you'll sit on the domain, no one will be interested and you continue to risk suit by the TM holder.
     
    slipxaway, Nov 12, 2006 IP
  5. slava

    slava Peon

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    take the $100
     
    slava, Nov 12, 2006 IP
  6. jquindlen

    jquindlen Notable Member

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    #6
    yeah, definitely just take the $100.
     
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  7. drig

    drig Peon

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    Something tells me this company can cough up more than $100 for the domain name. Id say shoot back with a higher amount and negotiate from there. I think they are trying to get a deal / steal.
     
    drig, Nov 12, 2006 IP
  8. humbug01

    humbug01 Peon

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    Hi thanks guys

    I will up this and see what they say, i will keep you posted
     
    humbug01, Nov 13, 2006 IP
  9. chriss

    chriss Active Member

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    Counterbid with $500 :)
     
    chriss, Nov 13, 2006 IP
  10. amnezia

    amnezia Peon

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    #10
    tell them one of their competitors has offered you $1000 for it and unless they can match that then you'll have to sell
     
    amnezia, Nov 13, 2006 IP
  11. bobby9101

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    ^^^ then they take you to court and you lose it all
     
    bobby9101, Nov 13, 2006 IP
  12. humbug01

    humbug01 Peon

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    Bobby please find me the trade mark issue on this, couldnt say the company that own alupack.de in theory sue alupack.net if that is the thinking
     
    humbug01, Nov 13, 2006 IP
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    I was telling the person above me that lying is a good way to lose it all.
    I think you should counter with $300
     
    bobby9101, Nov 13, 2006 IP
  14. humbug01

    humbug01 Peon

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    Aww right, Still i dont think they could take you to court if you said you had a higher offer when you didnt, and you would be under no obligation to prove you had a higher offer,
     
    humbug01, Nov 13, 2006 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Playing "devils advocate" here, I'd tell the other company not to raise their offer. They're doing fine with the .net and you have no real intention to develop the site. No harm is going to come from not owning it.

    You don't seem to have a Plan B so it seems your cybersquatting may have backfired.
     
    sarahk, Nov 13, 2006 IP
  16. bobby9101

    bobby9101 Peon

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    actually, you would need to procve that you had a higher offer if you said you did.

    had a .com domain, the .net company wanted it for $100 I countered with $300 and they accepted. so try that
     
    bobby9101, Nov 13, 2006 IP
  17. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    And hope they don't google.
     
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  18. humbug01

    humbug01 Peon

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    Cool bobby i will try that,

    I dont see how it is cyber Squatting, the domain is not a trademark it is a dictionary word and is a kind of packing for medicines (Blister Pack), if i am cyber squatting are the other companies with domain names alupack.de .se etc cyber squatting? AVI own alupack .de i think and they are big
     
    humbug01, Nov 13, 2006 IP
  19. drig

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    I couldnt find "Alupack" in the dictionary (dictionary.reference.com). Still, its worth much more than $100. As I said before, counter with a higher amount and go from there.
     
    drig, Nov 13, 2006 IP
  20. amnezia

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    I think its worth the risk for $100
     
    amnezia, Nov 14, 2006 IP