H1 Tags -- Can I cheat ??>

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by eyes2005, Feb 16, 2006.

  1. #1
    Ok, H1 tag on a website helps it get ranked better via SEO, but it is ugly...

    Can i use CCS to make it Invisible (the same colour as background)

    so it is there in HTML, but viewers can Not see it as it's invisible... so I am cheating.....

    Will that be acceptable by the search engines ??
     
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  2. hmilesjr

    hmilesjr Active Member

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    #2
    You can use CSS to change the font size, colors, etc. But I would avoid doing it the same color as your background. The Search Engines do frown on invisible text.
     
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  3. Dakait

    Dakait Banned

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    #3
    Why you wont to hide text with same color. Just write it in <H1> and make size small....here is code..

    .h1style {
    text-decoration: none;
    margin-top: 0;
    margin-bottom: 0;
    font-size: 12px;
    }

    And if you really want to hide the code from visitors than...do

    1. Write test in marquee
    2. put this marquee in <tr><td>....</td></tr>
    3. make the width="0"
    4. make hight="0"
    5. place this cell in top left of page

    This will look like a pixel with text color in top left corner :)
     
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  4. Dakait

    Dakait Banned

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    #4
    And you are talking about cheat....forget that.
     
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  5. eyes2005

    eyes2005 Well-Known Member

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    #5
    I wanted it invisible because I have made my website Already - last year, and
    now have learnt AFTERWARDS a H1 tag is good to include....

    so as i dont want to alter the site, i wanted to insert the Invisible H1 Tag...


    Dakait.... when you said that marquee stuff, did you mean you insert your keyword or phrase in there, and is marquee a font? - I don't know if my dreamweaver has this font, how do i import it ??
     
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  6. mdvaldosta

    mdvaldosta Peon

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    #6
    Go ahead and insert that invisible text, then they'll be more room for other people to rank on the search engines :p
     
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  7. just-4-teens

    just-4-teens Peon

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    #7
    feel free to use 7 H1 tags on your site all filled with your top keywords and make them small and invisible.

    Im sure your visiters will love your spammy pages and maybe google will give you special pr color, its one of a kind and only special people get it, the color of this pr is grey!
     
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  8. wibr

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    #8
    You should follow Dakait's advice and format your **VISIBLE** H1 tags to fit the theme and format of your site. Making them invisible will eventually get you busted. Might take a while, but they'll get you.
     
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  9. just-4-teens

    just-4-teens Peon

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    #9
    no matter how u try to hide it it is hidden text and hidden text is spam and spam will get you banned, us at your own risk.
     
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  10. eyes2005

    eyes2005 Well-Known Member

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    #10
    I've just learnt invisible Text gets you banned.....

    I have included quite alot of invisible text on my website....

    View it here...

    http://www.creditraising.com

    Then....Select all the Text on the page(PRESS Ctrl + A), and VIEW
    ==> you will see where I have used invisible text,,,,,

    But I had to, i had to get those invisible spaces didn't I ? dreamweaver makes it hard to make invisible spaces.... so i made some invisible text words....
     
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    #11
    i dnt see any invisible text there !
     
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  12. johneva

    johneva Well-Known Member

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    #12

    No if you use CSS there is no need to do things like that. It would also reduce your coding by half as there would be no need for all the font and center tags you have in your coding.
     
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  13. Brad Callen

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    #13
    lol well you have the idea right sort off.

    Use css to change the look of H1 tags as mentioned in here and you can have them look as pretty as any other title you can find.

    Most of my sites you wouldnt even pick them as H1 tags but they are. Its just about specifying the right attributes in the supporting css code.

    Brad
     
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    Brad Callen's H1 advice is money. He's got some real good advice in one of his emails about onpage.
     
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  15. miles

    miles Well-Known Member

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    I am still confused why people are trying to cheat G? I mean you realize they update their algo every 3 months to combat these shady tactics right?
     
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  16. ahearn

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    #16
    Do what I do. Use the <font> tag to make your headings look the way you want and then put <H1> tags OUTSIDE the <font> tags. The <H1> doesn't affect the way the text looks.
     
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  17. johneva

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    #17
    Font tag should not be used anymore by the way.

    But yes you could alter the way the h1 tag looks with CSS.

    Dont make any hidden text though, unless you want to get banned from all the search engines that is.
     
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  18. Dakait

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    #18
    There is one more way to use <h1> without showing it to visitor.....

    Use..... <h1><Img src="..." alt="keyword in IMG ALT attribute"></h1>

    :)

    Visitor will see it as normal img alt text but search engines see as <h1>


    --
     
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  19. johneva

    johneva Well-Known Member

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    #19
    Stop encouraging bad tricks.

    I carnt stand cheats!

    If your site is not relevent it dont deserve to be at the top of search engines.
     
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  20. Immorta

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    #20
    This is true however I can give you URL's for about 20 sites I know of with hidden H1 tags in their pages (Some of them with 30+) and they have never been kicked out...

    Suprising what you can still get away with.

    The best option as someone already mentioned is to just use CSS to control the size of the text.

    h1 {
    font-size:medium;
    color:#000000;
    }

    Of course if you want it really small and unseen you can do this.

    h1 {
    font-size:xx-small;
    color:#ffffff; (Assuming white bg)
    }



    On your head be it.
     
    Immorta, Feb 17, 2006 IP