H1 Tag cheat(minute font size) -is this ok ?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by eyes2005, Feb 21, 2006.

  1. #1
    I want to include H1 tags into my site, but dont wnt them viewed, as the site has already been made, and adding a h1 tag will ruin it, so Ive deciding to Minute the Font of the H1 tag using CCS.

    CLICK HERE...to view it.... it is in Red and I will make it black.

    view it.
    - > http://www.creditraising.com/Coates_home1a.htm


    Heres the code

    <h1 align="center" class="H1smal"><font color="#FF0000">Credir repair</font></h1>


    Will that be accepted as an H1 tag ? I have used CCS to smallen the font.
     
    eyes2005, Feb 21, 2006 IP
  2. sendflowers

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    Yes but the font colour should be included in the css class "H1smal" and probably the fact it is centered for that matter.

    Your code should read
     
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  3. jnm

    jnm Guest

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    #3
    yeah that's fine but you don't even have to make another class for it.

    you can just do

    H1 {
    your CSS attributes;
    }


    but yes, still recognized as H1 tags.
     
    jnm, Feb 21, 2006 IP
  4. Brad Callen

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    #4
    I would go with the jnm example as it would then change all h1 tags automatically in your html.

    By changing the tags in your css it gives youre whole site access to the changes just by including your .css file.

    Thus way whenever you do your H1 it automatically is pre-formatted exactly how you would like it to be viewed.

    Brad
     
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  5. mad4

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    I would never recommend using fake h1 or h2 tags to fool the search engines.

    Some people say they can detect it and some people say they can't. Either way they will one day be able to detect it and will penalize your site for it.

    h1 tags and designing for humans go hand in hand and you should be able to use them to attract both users AND search engines.
     
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    quaffapint Active Member

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    Just playing devils advocate here...But, outside SEOs, I may want to modify my H1's to blend it better with the rest of my site. Yes, I could just not use H1's, but whats the harm in using them combined with CSS to make your site more attractive to the human visitor as well?
     
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    hooperman Well-Known Member

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    #7
    It's all down to intent.

    Don't forget, google is working on the algorithm that reads minds.
     
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  8. mad4

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    Nothing at all and this is exactly what I do on my sites.

    What you should not do is attempt to show different content to search engines as you to your visitors.
     
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  9. ahkip

    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #9
    u think u can fool them by this?
     
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    redhits Notable Member

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    #10
    Does google really care about <b> <u> and <h1>....<h6> anymore!? i think no no no no !
     
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    Sxperm Notable Member

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    #11
    From my experienced, use h tags in proper way and you'll get best results. I think search engine still pay attention to H tags but not try to spam them. Use H tags to contain your few main keywords is the better. Use CSS to make them looks nice :D

    
    <h1 class="y1">Keyword 1 | Keyword 2</h1>
    <h2 class="y2">Keyword 3 | Keyword 4</h2>
    
    Code (markup):
     
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  13. dfsweb

    dfsweb Active Member

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    #13
    I use Heading tags and CSS combined all the time on www.newzealandphotography.co.nz. All the heading that you see on the sub-pages: "New Zealand Travel", "North Island", "South Island" etc. are all H1 tags. I used it for convenience and not to fool anybody or any SE.

    All I did was define the font, colour and size for H1 tags in my template file (CSS). That's it, now I can adjust the heading size whenever I want to by just going to the template and changing how the H1 tag is defined. Plus of course, the fact that I get to use H1 tags just in case they have any importance for SEs.
     
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  14. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #14
    Those links don't look like "topic headings". How's it working out?
     
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  15. dfsweb

    dfsweb Active Member

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    Sorry, not the links ... the actual headings are using H1 tags! I never said I was doing anything wrong. I am using H1 tags for what they are meant for ..... headings! Ex: Click on "New Zealand Travel" and on the "New Zealand Travel" page the heading at the top is using the H1 tag.

    My point was that you can redefine the size, font, colour and style for a H1 tag in CSS so it's not an "ugly, standing out" heading but one that merges with the rest of the look and feel. Plus, if you use CSS you can change the look and feel for all Heading tags around your site by making just one change.
     
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    #16
    Sorry I misunderstood. :)

    Wrong is subjective, I didn't mean to imply that.
     
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  17. dfsweb

    dfsweb Active Member

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    Hey, no worries dude! (Thanks for the green rep) :)
     
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  18. sgorman

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    #18
    I think it depends on your viewpoint.

    I don't think that you are showing different content to the SE if you recode the h1 tag; and I can see why you might want to have different h1's per page. Google looks at the text within the h1 as that is effects the relevency of the page, but you might want your site to have pages that look different and you might not want a number of different ccs files.

    I cannot see a problem with the issue.
     
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  19. DirtyDog

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    #19
    I don't know where the idea came from that adding a style to your h1 tags is somehow cheating. You design all aspects of a site - fonts, colors etc but you are supposed to leave h1 tags browser default? That makes no sense at all.
     
    DirtyDog, Mar 2, 2006 IP