Guantanamo Detainee Found Innocent, Set Free

US= People who respect the rule of law, democracy, international treaties, U.S. Constitution and the principals that USA traditionally is known for.

Them= Terrorists, people who support torture and lawlessness and are disgrace to everything that USA should stand for, people like Gtech.

We are better than you.

I hope this answered your question.

 

This is something that Gworld posted in his post

Can you please show me where you answered to that here:

 

I'm sure this was very painful for you to write, after some of the horrible things you've accused your country and our soldiers of in this thread. Still, I commend you for such.

Does this mean you retract the statement saying "That makes US no better than THEM" when referring to terrorists?

It doesn't answer it honestly. Let's put your assumptions of what grim said in context:

That makes [People who respect the rule of law, democracy, international treaties, U.S. Constitution and the principals that USA traditionally is known for.] no better than [Terrorists, people who support torture and lawlessness and are disgrace to everything that USA should stand for, people like gworld.]

Doesn't sound very flattering, does it? Thank you for helping me validate that point.

Considering who you've openly supported and even created threads of sympathy for on this forum, and the countless hours and hours you've spent bashing America and my (not your...you're just a Canadian) country's soldiers, and quickly trying to turn threads of "stoning" around on the US, I find your assertion rather humorous

Can you please post the part you deliberately omitted? Once you do that, you will have your answer

Keep trying.

 

Why would you state something so completely obvious to everyone hrmm........

 

I didn't put in what grim said context, I just explained who we are and who you are, in case you are confused and don't know.

 

Here's the part I omitted:

Here's your "answer":

Can you please explain me how is that an answer to Gworld's claim ?
Do they have judges in supreme court and not ex-corporals because you claim to know what side Gworld is? Do they have judges in supreme court and not ex-corporals because you recall that Gworld and briant are the only members "that have actually created a thread seeking sympathy and support for an al qaida terrorist, who was found guilty."?
you haven't answered to his claims at all, you just focused on Gworld himself and not what he said

 

It's obviously not obvious to you or Gtech, you know the two who were totally factually incorrect, owned and then decided to lie and twist to take away from the subject at hand.

hmmmm

Is that all you've got?

Do you honestly wake up in the morning and feel good about yourself knowing you lowered yourself to this level to save face?

Gtech I never accused the US or our soldiers of anything, that would be you

Lying to save face, using our brave men and women to save face.

Yet again as it's obvious your brain doesn't have the capacity for it, Toopac claimed the GC doesn't apply, it in fact does. My post was against Toopacs post that it doesn't apply, since it does apply and since even the Bush administration says it applies the entire point is null and void as 'US' are not doing what Toopac claimed.

You know that projectionism quote you keep linking to, no wonder why you know it so well, I bet you've been diagnosed with such. You fit the description fully If anyone accused the troops of anything it is you and Toopac claiming they do not give GC to those at Guantanamo, you were proven wrong there BTW. The entire reason you decided to lie and twist because you were OWNED!

You are simply a disgrace, a lowly pathetic liar.

So yet again

Do you feel Guantanamo should be back to the way it was before the rulings?

 

As shown in this very thread Gtech wont answer when he's proven wrong, he lies and twists to change the subject matter.

Anyone with a kindergarten degree can see that, it's trully the lowest of the low.

Yet I'm sure he actually believes he's correct, that's the saddest part of all.

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Nor did Gtech, he twisted what I said and put his own unique context onto the post to take away from the subject matter at hand, and the fact that he was OWNED about the GC

 

Thank you! Now we see whose side you are on and what your agenda is. Now you have your answer

Keep trying!

 

Good question. That's not something he would "ever" say on his own.

I suspect, because he got totally owned for saying that "US" are no better than his terrorist buddies in Gitmo ("US" obviously being the USA and our troops).

And to save face, he's lied through his teeth to cover up this embarrassing confession, even going so far as to actually say something positive about America for a change.

I keep saying that if you let a narcissist have the last word, they will eventually shut up. I really should just let him have the last word. He's so owned, he'll probably skip gym class today

 

Is that all you got Gtech, run from the truth, run from the fact that you were owned, run from everything, don't answer questions.

You're starting to look like something else above and beyond a liar, a deceitful person, a twister and manipulator of words.

That would be a

Coward

 

Does that mean you retract your statement that "US" are no better than Gitmo terrorists?

Come on gym boy, you were so anxious to show compassion to your buds, now you are distancing yourself from the very group of people you spent the first half of the thread standing up for!

Obviously the gym doesn't prepare the mind.

 

Until you wake up and admit you and Toopac were incorrect, that the GC does in fact apply. All you're doing is showing this forum how far your head is up your ass.

Please continue, it's to damn funny that you actually enjoy digging your own grave.

 

Gtech never did I say that.

You are the one who said the GC does not apply, our troops and our administration, our courts say it does.

Therefore our troops do not do what you and toopac claimed, YOU are the one talking badly about our troops, not I.

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I have never stood up for terrorists. I unlike you stand up for the country I love before anything.

 

IF any soldier from any army or nationality participate in torture or abuse of prisoners of war, that person is a criminal and no better than a terrorist.

 

So you are retracting your statement saying that "US" are no better than gitmo terrorists? Is that what you are saying Grim? Is that why you had to say something, as Toopac put it, "so obvious to everyone?"

Be a man, admit your mistake. You always demand the same of others, even when they haven't done so.

Either that, or define "US" Who are "US," that are no better than gitmo terrorists?

You couldn't have been standing up for the law, you admitted you believed no laws were being broken at the moment. Your entire argument was on behalf of gitmo detainees up until *that* admission.

Keep deflecting

 

Talking about being a man care to admit you were wrong on the Geneva Convention?

I am not retracting anything, I stand behind MY words, not your extremely weak attempt to make them something they are not.

I stand behind my words which is correct, WE 'US' do not do what you and toopac claimed. We 'US' use the Geneva Convention at Guantanamo Bay.

Admit you were wrong, admit you lied, Gtech you simply are so pathetic it's not even fun. Seriously anyone with any education can see right through you.

Care to step up and be a man and admit you were wrong about the GC. You know the entire reason you chose to twist something out of context, to save face..

FFS stop your insane attempt, stop lying.

Back to the original point. Do you admit you were wrong on the GC!

 

Good point, i remember him saying this too

 

Really, you don't retract them? So you do believe that gitmo terrorists are better than our troops?

Let's revisit those words again, to see where Grim is lying, yet again:

So you believe "our" troops are no better than gitmo troops? Toopac's statement was very fair. You asked what you considered an "easy question." Toopac replied "They should be treated exactly how we treat theirs fairly." Thus, clearly indicating that "we" treat "their" prisoners in a favorable manner, unlike they treat ours (with death).

You took issue with that, and claimed "since we did not treat them according to the GC in the first place" indicating that you take issue with Toopac for claiming they should be treated fairly.

As such, you put your foot in your mouth by defending gitmo terrorists and making claims that we did not treat them according to the GC and even worse, said that US are no better than THEM.

Yet you call everyone else the LIAR for your own words, which you claim you still stand behind. These are YOUR words. No one is twisting them. There is nothing there to twist. You made those claims. No one held your hand and made you defend terrorists and claim that they US are no better than THEM.

But you attack everyone else for your own words and are not man enough to retract them. Instead, choosing to call every who clearly sees you were championing terrorists a liar, for your own words. A real man would stand behind his words, and apparently you are choosing to do that.

 

Nope Toopacs statement was factually incorrect Gtech, horrible attempt.

Get back to me when you actually are worth debating.

Simply pathetic.

The ruling is now Gtech, now you and toopac claim they do not get GC protections. Nice try to further dig back and twist though.