Where in the Constitution does it allow the government to tax income? I'm pretty sure that there are cash prizes out there for proving it, so best of luck! Not according to Wikipedia or the guys who run Arutz Sheva. Not disputing this. I'm sure it is used as a pejorative, but that's not it's sole usage. And where did you draw this conclusion from? I think you are confusing the meaning of anti-semitic, and using that as a pejorative. Antisemitism would mean I have hatred for Jews. I do not. It has nothing to do with Israel, which would be a Zionism issue by definition, another thing I don't necessarily have an issue with. Post WWI, the division of the former Ottoman empire, which led up to the creation of Israel has caused a lot of turbulence in the region, not just for Israel. Oppression of Non-Muslims? I know plenty of Lebanese and Iraqi Christians who were a minority, but I never get the impression speaking with them that they felt oppressed. The Arab religious tent is pretty big. And likewise, I'm sure many Muslims outside have been killed by Israelis inside. It's a double edged sword, in a vicious cycle of killing. Again, not all Muslims are anti-semitic, and if you believe that, then you have a very narrow band of experience with Muslims. A lot of venom for Muslims as a group, but again you're overlooking Muslims on an individual level. If the Muslims wanted to destroy all Christian holy sites, why did they survive before the creation of Israel? I'm not an expert on this, but surely you are aware that Jesus is considered an important prophet in Islam, right? I believe they called him Isa and they do venerate his time on earth. And iirc, didn't the Jews reject Jesus as the messiah? Which it seems to me would bring Islam and Christianity a lot closer than Judaism and Christianity. But I digress. I have no problem with people supporting Israel, the artifacts and historical sites, the preservation of their religions. I do not support aggressive settler tactics or terrorism in response. I don't see a crime by a Muslim as a crime by Islam any more than I see a crime by a Jew a crime belonging to Judaism.
Againa thats just plain ignorant. Who said that ron paul supports one group or another. againa notice the same style of twisting posts and making them come out to try to serve your purpose. Again hidden motives, but then again that is a neocon trait anyways isnt it. How else can a few elite rule over the masses.
Kalvin, like i said before u know absolutely nothing about that region and your posts are showing this with flying colors. I would advise taking some courses in college to maybe see if you can get a moderate view of it, cause if you were debating ina forum of experts , you wouldnt last. Also go through some of my old posts. I am christian by the way also. Kalvin again another blanket statement against muslims. Have you ever been to dubai? My cousin has and he tells me that there are many churches there and people are free to worhsip as they see fit . Your biased view is ignorant and prob.ably came from michael savage(who i like listening to because he is much closer to being a conservative than george bush ever will be) and fox news.
Attacking his views with anti-semitic rhetoric is not answering the legitimate question that was presented. RP4Js was created when initial controversy about Ron Paul's racist newsletters came out. Not unlike "gays for ron paul" and virtually every other fraudulent website (not to mention opposing candidate forums, etc) created by dishonest RP supporters. I believe people are smart enough to see the deception. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/11/website_claim_jews_for_ron_pau.html Perhaps we should turn to "real Jews" to learn the truth? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1926255/posts Not to mention, you can't hardly navigate the RP forums, without any number of members there regularly proclaiming that the latest [insert negative coverage of RP] is a zionist conspiracy. This fraudulent site has been exposed for quite some time now. I find it hard to believe that RP supporters were not aware of the fraud. Additionally, RP's vote, positions, and persistent whiny railings against Israel, coupled with his unconscionable hatred for Jews exposed in his racist newsletters, followed by using the term "neocon" (code word for Jews) clearly indicates his absolute disdain for Jews.
It is a true statement that Muslims have desecrated religious artifacts from around the world. It is a fact that the Muslims living around Israel cannot be trusted. They destroyed perfectly functional and useful greenhouses in Gaza. They're launching rockets into Israel constantly. And it's impossible to tell a good Muslim from a bad Muslim because they all look the same. If you want to apply that statement to Muslims around the world then that's your issue. I'm talking about the Sharia law infected Middle East. I'm aware that many Muslims in western countries reject Islam and practice their own watered down version that they call Islam. But, then again I've yet to find a Muslim that supports Israel. Even in western countries. It is also a fact that a large percentage of Muslims living in western countries support the murders being carried out by other Muslims in the Middle East and elsewhere. It is also a fact that no Muslim that wants Israel destroyed has offered an alternative piece of land in it's place. Show me where an Islamic leader had offered say a piece of Iraq as the new Israel. If Muslims could stop being murderous jerks, they could live in Israel today just like many people of many faiths and non-faiths already do and have access to whatever religious places they want to have access to. Dubai is run by a bunch of money grubbing Arabs. Not a bunch of crazy Muslims. Of course they're going to play nice. It would hurt their bottom line to allow the crazy Muslims to murder tourists or to alienate everyone who isn't Muslim by oppressing them with Sharia law. Would you pay a million dollars to live some place that oppressed you? Show me a Sharia Law run Islamic country that treats all people of all faiths equally. Show me a Muslim who will stick up for Israel.
I was refering to the Muslims who murder (especially those in the region around Israel launching rockets) and those who support them, not Muslims in general. Context context context. If those Muslims would quit and other Muslims would stop supporting them and actively condemn them, they could freely live in and visit Israel just like everyone else does.
Now your spreading lies again. Again your acting in an un-christian like way by decieving others and putting words in ron pauls mouth. He has never uttered a bad word against isreal. He simply stated that foreign funding must come to an end to all foreign countries. Did you try praying to the good lord to help u speak straight without any twisting of peoples words? I have read the bible many times and i never saw jesus twist one word . He is in THE LIGHT.
Calvin if i show you muslims who are sticking up for isreal will you leave this forum for good, or stop posting anti-muslim messages? I dare you to take me up on this deal. IF you dont then maybe you do believe that there are muslims that are in favor of isreal. If you believe in your own bs so much then you will have no problem going for this dare? Watch folks as he says no.
Not that he will admit to. For 10 years plenty of anti-semetic and racist things were written in his name in his publication by his friend and advisor. He pretends he had no idea. I'll stop posting anti-murderous-muslim posts as soon as there are no murderous muslims and people stop defending them. When there is not a Muslim terrorist attack for 1 year anywhere in the world I'll start to believe that non-crazy muslims have finally stopped the insanity. No rocket launches into Israel, no destruction of religious artifacts. No oppression of non-Muslims in Muslim countries. No oppression of women. No murdering of apostates. Etc. I'm sure you can come up with at least one Muslim who supports Israel. I've just never seen it on this forum. People managed to find some "Jews" who support Ron Paul. That task has nothing to do with me leaving the forum. It has to do with Muslims standing up against the "small minority" that has "hijacked" their religion. I'd like to find that vocal majority of Muslims that are marching in the street protesting the violence that is done in the name of their religion. Your task is to find one person who might join in such a march. A Danish politician has put together a short video documenting the violence that Islam teaches. The result? Violence from the Muslim population. Sure proved him wrong.
Ping, you're dealing with someone who thinks that the term "Zionist" is antisemitic, not unlike the guy here who tries to conflate neocon into "Jew". It's a waste of time. There is a disconnect when someone is against religious hatred and ignorance, and then uses religious hatred and ignorance to make his point.
Pingpong if i show you Americans who are sticking up for America and Isreal (sic) will you leave this forum for good, or stop posting anti-American messages? I dare you to take me up on this deal. IF you dont then maybe you do believe that there are Americans that are in favor of isreal (sic). If you believe in your own bs so much then you will have no problem going for this dare? Watch folks as he says no.
Do you even know what "Zion" is? Please do explain to the audience what supporting a democratic nation that allows religious freedom and tolerance has to do with "Zion." Please do explain how you are not an anti-semite for making Israel a "Jew" issue when a significant number of non-Jews live there. So what exactly am I ignorant about? Are there not crazy murderous muslims that oppress women, murder apostates, destroy religious artifacts, suicide bomb civilians? Did I miss the peace marches condeming the violence carried out in the name of Islam that were bigger than any call for violence rally carried out by Muslims? Say, that dwarfed the hoopla over the Danish cartoons? Am I wrong that a signficiant number of Muslims in western countries support the murderous muslims?
He's never said a kind word about one, I know that. Terrorist organizations...I've seen plenty of kind words for them. America, Israel, Jews, Christians? Plenty of bad words, but I don't recall any good words. Of course, the RP4J website is already exposed as a fraud. In the absence of real support, RP supporters simply rush off to create a fictitious site that demonstrates otherwise. Hence "gays for RP". I've yet to see any of them say a bad word about one of their member's open views about Jews: Silence has a way of making a more profound statement, than any written word could ever do.
That sure was stupid because i never said that americans dont stick up for isreal. Kalvin said to show him a muslim that sticks up for isreal. Again twisting of words, and deception. Anti-christian behavior at its best. Gtech , church is on sunday, maybe we can go together At least Kalvin knows that what he is saying is pure rubbish, because he wont dare to touch that challenge, he knows in his heart of hearts there are muslims that support the state of isreal and that his statement is a pure lie. Thanks kalvin for clearing up that one. Gtech do you also believe that no muslims support the state of isreal? I will see another no comment there. I believe the exact words were "Show me a Muslim who will stick up for Israel." Im waiting for an answer, or do you always speak ignorantly? Seoguru, you cant make a blanket statement about one race like that dude, my experience has taught me that there are many nice jewish people just as there are many nice people from all cultures. I will say this again. When my dad came back to america for good, no one helped him more than his jewish friends, and if it wasnt for them he never would have made it in america. This isnt a tall tale. This is a fact. He knew nothing when he came here and his friends were there every step of the way to the point that they helped him to have the busiest business per square inch in america in the early 70's. Just as not all muslims are terrorists not all jewish people are the this way. There are moderates in every culture. Gtech doesnt believe this but we all should.
I've already linked you to Zionism at Wikipedia. Feel free to dispute the article, I think it is fairly even handed. Source? Is there a limit on how many characters I can put in one post? Absolutely. I believe Christianity and many others religions also have these sorts of people within them. I don't see all of the evil in the world manifested only in one belief system. That, would be narrow and ignorant. Perhaps you missed the candlelight vigils after 9/11. I can't testify to their size, but they did occur. Agree or disagree? Please define a "significant amount". You previously stated that Western Mulims were practicing a "watered down" religion. This would contradict the idea that there is this "significant" Western support. Which is it?
guerilla i feel sorry for gtech because he will live his life with hate in his heart and what a deceptive hate it is!!!!. He clearly has to be one of those evangelicals. what sthe difference between one extremist and another lol.
Pingy, go back, re-read and compare what I offered to what you offered Kalvin. Some how, I can't help but think you missed it and I'm not convinced it was on purpose Aside from the brutal assault on the English language, it's hard to tell if you are talking about me, or yourself here. I can't help but think "America, Bush, neocon, etc" when I read what you wrote. Please, pingy, the last thing in the world I want is for someone like you to feel sorry for me I'll be fine, I assure you!
Ah, I think I figured out something with pingpong - He watched to much rosie! Its dem evangelicals that are as bad as the extremist. Telling people about Jesus is just like violence.