Unbelievable: http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/geauga/1161160728289790.xml&coll=2 I think this is the essence of my distaste of government programs. Success is measured by how many people are using the hand-out; not by how many people no longer need it. Making them dependent is the name of the game. Even if they don't want it ... read on. So not only are they foisting a program on people who don't want it; they are spending more money to advertise the program to those people. Imagine that. People helping people. Not government helping people. Imagine the concept! Frightening
I find it laughable and true the government is waisting money. I live by several Amish communities and they have plenty of money. A lot more than most of us they just have no need to flaunt it. They also grow or raise most of their own food anyway so what the heck would they want food stamps for? Most of the ones I know look overfed.
And for every $1 worth of foodstamps distributed to the Amish, they are going to charge taxpayer a few dollars in 'administrative costs'
Lol, I just thought of something, how are they going to get proof of income and all the other information they want to get food stamps?
They'll have to pass compulsory employment law first, and no religious exemption would be allowed. Besides, Amish don't have Social security numbers. I am guessing they are needed to apply for food stamps
don't they? i thought you had to have one? i guess that means they don't file income tax returns either. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6jFPP3iGCk&mode=related&search=
No, SSNs are optional, you (or your parents) have to apply for one. I read somewhere that they file income taxes, but are exempt from SS and medicare. I am not sure how accurate it is, because IRS form requires SSN
Guess they don't pay social security taxes. http://ask.yahoo.com/20030821.html Several sites say they do pay income tax, sales tax. not sure how that's collected though.
LOL That doesn't make sense. I hope you are kidding There are only a trillion combinations (-1 maybe) of SSN numbers. they have a group set aside for them or something, perhaps.
Good point, they'd run out of combinations... That's just what I've read, no idea how accurate it is But I know that someone without a number sent a letter to IRS asking if he is supposed to file taxes and they answered that returns without SSN 'generally cannot be processed'.
The Amish people help each other, so they don't need the governments help. Frankly if people had more faith in each other we wouldn't need the government's help in many things. I guess that word...'faith'....is an odd word for some. They may not have 'faith' in god, but they have 'faith' that life will turn out well,.... even when there's no absolute guarantee of either. Faith in other men is similiar bit. Even though many people will not care at all about your life, there will always be people that do and will. Some may never even know you, but they will always hold good will towards you. That's my faith in mankind. I'm not to worried about things, because I know there will always be a lending hand if I look hard enough. I wouldn't ask for the 'money of force'.
Now when you have a baby they require you to obtain a SSN right away. Last 3 kids this happened with us. Since I pay taxes, this works to my benefit, I can show each child to get credits, etc..
They drop this 'requirement' pretty quick when you refuse to comply. My 1-year old doesn't have SSN. There is no law that requires anyone to obtain one, it's voluntary. What are they going to do, call the cops? That's true, I pay somewhat more in taxes because SSN-less child can't be claimed as a dependant. If IRS has problems taxing her when she is adult, it will pay off easily. I am betting that they will. More important, I don't want to enroll her in voluntary ponzi schemes that don't have a termination clause. What's wrong with letting the child decide when she grows up?
It's not just the amish... http://www.latimes.com/la-me-stamp13oct13,0,4082275.story Bastards. Trying to make it on their own without handouts from the government. Damn you all
Hopefully she doesn't. You are not legally required to have the number to work, but employers will want it 99%+ of the time. I make a good living being self-employed, and the most I ever made from a job was 8.50 an hour. Wish I didn't have the number and liability that comes with it, so I didn't get my daughter one, in case she doesn't want it either. She can always get SSN later if she wants to. Applying for SSN is way easier than getting rid of it, so why do it at birth Oh yeah, and many states require SSN to get a driver's license, so you might have to get DL from another state