Got Penalized. Now PR back. not the visitors.

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by afridy, Aug 30, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hai folks,

    before i got penalized for selling few links through text link ads, i had pr5 and i get average 750 visitros a day. but after got penalized i lost 75% of the visitors. now problem is, my pr back in 4 days after removing all the sold links and submit for a review to google. but i see i dont get old visitors. same as when i got penalized.

    is there any catch that google gave back the pr in 4 days. but internally still some kind of a punishment from appering in search results :confused:

    * pls note that now its nearly 30 days i got my pr back. so last 30 days i am monitoring for trafic improvement and not yet.
     
    afridy, Aug 30, 2009 IP
  2. Natheen2000

    Natheen2000 Peon

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    Yes, get at least 100 backlinks - spread it to 5-6 days, You will be back again as usual.
     
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  3. afridy

    afridy Well-Known Member

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  4. mejason12

    mejason12 Active Member Affiliate Manager

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    #4
    Are your SERPs back??
     
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  5. afridy

    afridy Well-Known Member

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    #5
    yah i can see SERP's if i issue a relevant kewords closely matching.
    any way, ill keep checking search eninge visitng. i installed google analytics.
     
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  6. afridy

    afridy Well-Known Member

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    from your comments, it seems if pr back, then no any other restrictions.
    ok folks, ill keep chking closely.
     
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  7. farangkwaiyai

    farangkwaiyai Guest

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    How did you know you were penalised for selling links? How did you get caught?
     
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  8. afridy

    afridy Well-Known Member

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    #8
    I now always afride to talk that subject :p

    what i can advise you is, do not ever post your site url here at dp in the link building or link sales forum if not doing using NOFLLOW ;)

    any way , i totally given up link building / sales.
     
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  9. mirisaamali

    mirisaamali Well-Known Member

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    well you must be looking on Google SE. Dont worry, everyone gets such shocks on it! :)

    Target yahoo and other search engines also. So that if one penalized you, you still have others on hand.
     
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    richee123 Peon

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    It seems that your PR is back but you are still penalized so keeep working. Build some more links and add freesh content in your site. If possible you can start blog on your site. After that you may get your visitors back . But overall you have to make a new start. Don't count your previous back links.
     
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  11. akashvista

    akashvista Peon

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    Well its strange, because I dont think Google penalizes a site for selling links coz there are thousands of sites using TLA then why dont they all get penalized.




    man is that any kind of advice who said that getting 100 links will get you back. If the site has really been penalized getting links will do that???? also dont you know numbers dont matter in SEO.
     
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  12. lifeplayer

    lifeplayer Notable Member

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    #12
    PR dont actually affect your number of visitor (or traffic). I believed that this happen due to your SERP drop for certain keywords.
     
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  13. mejason12

    mejason12 Active Member Affiliate Manager

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    This is the only reason I can think of.
     
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  14. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    If Google catches you selling links they WILL most certainly penalize you. The problem with "catching" people selling links is proving it. If you're posting in forums like DP that you ARE selling links, or bragging in Google's help forums while you're logged into you Google WMT account then you can expect a penalty at some point. If Google doesn't catch you by reading your posts then someone else more whitehat than you will likely report you eventually. And when Google reviews your post and reviews your site, they have enough evidence to assume you're guilty.

    Hell it's even easier to prove it for TLA. A googler can simply sign up for a TLA account and say they want to buy links... They can look at inventory online on the TLA site listing sites where they can buy them (or they used to be able to. I haven't bothered with these peeps in years because of it.) If you're going to buy links, NEVER do it with a company with an online interface that allows you to view their inventory of placements. Only wheel and deal in links off line and via email where the site or broker sends you their inventory in spreadsheets and such.

    Google does NOT generally penalize the buyer of the link other than possibly devaluing the inbound link from the seller so that it does not count in the buyer's rankings. Again it is hard for Google to prove that YOU bought the link instead of one of your competitors trying to get you in trouble. So unless you're bragging about buying links online, you're relatively safe as a buyer other than paying for links that pass you no juice because the links have been devalued.

    @OP

    If your PR has returned and your rankings in the SERPs have all returned for ALL keyword phrases you used to get traffic for prior to penalty, you should be fine. Traffic should return as well.

    My guess, however, is that you may have some URLs on your site still under penalty for some other Webmaster Guidelines violation... or that some of your old URLs that sent you traffic may have been deindexed as a result of the penalty somehow.

    If you have Google Analytics or some other traffic analyzer I would look at traffic patterns from before and after the penalty... which URLs previously got traffic and for what keyword phrases... which URLs are now getting traffic and for what keyword phrases.

    You'll likely see a URL or two that USED to send you lots of traffic but are no longer. Check those pages out for violations.
     
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  15. akashvista

    akashvista Peon

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    Well dont have much knowledge about it interesting. Need more people to comment on this. Guys is it really true what he is saying!!!
     
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  16. afridy

    afridy Well-Known Member

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    very useful piece of writing Canonical

    actually i was a 3 year old TLA Publisher. i had no problem. when i started link selling in dp only every thing changed in two weeks :p

    i sold two links successfully here on my early days via pm. i had PR5 that time. then i try to sell 3rd link using a [WTS] method. i also specify my site url where link will be placed. one my friend saw my thread and told "hey men you posted your url in dp?. take that out the url asap.
    when i return to the thread i am late. editing locked. i then posted (my madness) in chicht forum also that i posted my link in buy and sell links section can any body delete that? like. all reply was sorry. you late. no editing afte 8 hours. next day banged. site pr 5 > 3. can it be a tip from sombody :p

    this all happen two month ago. so waited until last week to expire all links i sold in dp. after expire, i remomved all links sold here + TLA ones (was very sad to retire from a 3 year old campaign. i should say TLA is a superb comapney).

    then last week i wrote to google webmaster telling that i have removed all the links and get me my pr back kindly. in 4 days my pr was back and was really surprised that i got it back in 4days. but the trafic/adsense income was remain 75% down.

    This is what happen to me actually if you blive it or not :)

    All the main reason i went to sell links is, this google check really sucks in our country. it take months to cash out. 2 1/2 months (banghead).
    google should do somthing for all non us europe publishers asap. atlest western union or instantly cashable cheque at the bank. so far i have earnined 8000 usd in last 4-5 years in google adsnese. will my voice taken in to consideration on behalf of our country ? any google ppl here?
     
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  17. afridy

    afridy Well-Known Member

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    yes, what he is telling is correct. i also proved it with my incident :)
     
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  18. samueldarwin

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    The only thing I can say is wait, wait and wait. Google some time annoys... Just wait and continue with link building...
     
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  19. akashvista

    akashvista Peon

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    Well I am really very surprised to know all this. But do the people at Google have this much of time to look at which site is selling links to penalize them???
     
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  20. afridy

    afridy Well-Known Member

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    i think yes, it seems they look popular places like dp, sitepoint etc to crack down this illegal link trade. they know most of the things happen in this places only :D
     
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