Gore: Cigarette Smoking 'significant' Contributor To Global Warming

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Rick_Michael, Oct 1, 2006.

  1. #1
    Really? Maybe this just sounds a bit silly, no matter if there's any validity to it. Curious what he basing that on....?
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    Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore warned hundreds of U.N. diplomats and staff on Thursday evening about the perils of climate change, claiming: Cigarette smoking is a "significant contributor to global warming!"

    http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm
     
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  2. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore <<<to fucking dumb to follow after bush, he might make him look smart
     
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    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    Not that Gore don't put his foot in his mouth, but the out of context quote is useless to draw conclusions from.

    The guy gets paid to speak and his main purpose is to sell himself. That report is just a bullshit waste of bandwidth.

    The report could have been better. There is certainly an agenda there, not a report.

    I'm not a Gore fan. But I do appreciate real reporting, not crap like that.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    is there a context where the quote does make sense?
     
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  5. Rick_Michael

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    Most reporting is that way^^^. I agree the full context isn't displayed, but it sounds silly either way.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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  7. Caveman

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    I wouldn't expect anything less from the guy who invented the internet ;)
     
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    Doesn't Al Gore tobacco farmer know that tobacco plants consume CO2 and expel O2. I wonder how long before the leftists will realize they've manipulated society as much as they could with the greenhouse song and dance and move on to swamp cooler affect or whatever they make up next.

    Here's a good quote from Clinton's vice president:

    "Throughout most of my life, I raised tobacco. I want you to know that with my own hands, all of my life, I put it in the plant beds and transferred it. I've hoed it. I've dug in it. I've sprayed it, I've chopped it, I've shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn and stripped it and sold it.
    (Source: [New York] Newsday, 2/26/88
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Solid proof of republicans supporting a child molester amongst themselves. They would have let him continue on as normal had the media not broke the story. :rolleyes:
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    you got duped

    So what do think will happen with the molester cover up?
     
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  11. Rick_Michael

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    To tell you the truth, I don't know much about the situation....don't really want to know, either.
     
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    How about a REAL source for the quote with the quote put in context of the larger statement or at least validated. To me Drudge = National Enquirer. It is exceedingly unlikely that anyone who has as much knowledge about the global warming issue like Al Gore would make a statement as the quote suggests.

    Now in regards to smoking contributing to global warming; the smoking of cigarettes is in and of itself a "carbon neutral" activity in that the carbon released by smoking the cigarettes was free in the environment recently anyways (e.g. the tobacco plant removed its carbon from the environment). This is different from fossil fuels in that fossil fuels consist of carbon that was removed from the environment millions of years ago.

    The one point where cigarette smoking could be considered to contribute global warming would be in the production end where fossil fuel powered tractors are used in the farming process and fossil fuel generated electricity is used in the manufacturing process. So if farmers switched over to nuclear powered tractors and factories switched over to solar power there would be no contribution to the global warming problem. :D
     
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  13. Rick_Michael

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    Yeah, I know the drudge report is looked down-upon...among another million online sites out there. I just found it funny. Most likely it was said in humor or perhaps it wasn't even said....although here's another source as well.

    http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/060929/issues01.html?.v=1

    But I'm sure even that is just an opponent trying to use whatever he can against Al....seeing that his view is the complete opposite.

    I have nothing against Al, althought he's a bit hard to listen to recently. Far too much anger in the way he speaks...it muddles his message. The man needs a better form of PR, especially if he's going to run for president again.

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    In the big picture, anything that burns creates CO2, right?

    Yeah it's a reach, but samatics could be argued for the sake of arguing since Drudge quoted so far out of context. That kind of journelism serves no good purpose.
     
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    lmao...missed the nucluer tractor part. That would be some crazy shit.

    I'm curious why you have a Clint Eastwood avatar....?

    .......

    I think 60 something percent of oil is used in transportation, is it not? Cars you might be able to change (to electric or solar), but I don't see that in the flight industry....we might move more to diesel, but I don't think jet/turbine engines can work off of electricity.
     
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    Gore is just all bs, he has never had a problem accepting campaign money from tobacco companies, all the dope he smoked in school probably made him forget that inconvienient truth
     
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    Better than all the coke and alcohol bush hooked on :D
     
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    But the money gore got affected millions of people ;)
     
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    Did he really? That's not really ethical....

    The next president will take donations from Crack dealers.
     
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    I was wondering if someone was going to pick up on that comment. Could you imagine?:eek:

    Just think "Unforgiven," I loved that movie.

    We'll probably see a new generation of hybrids and and fuel cells. These could include high efficency diesel electric engines. Diesel engines can actually be cleaner and more efficent than gasoline engines. Fuel cells allow for a means of storing energy produced via various types of power plants (e.g. solar, wind, hydroelectric, geothermal, nuclear, etc). Vehicles like train locomotives are already diesel electrics they just need an efficent means to store the energy they currently waste going downhill via dynamic braking (dynamic braking turns traction motors into generators and then expend the electrical energy by producing heat). Aircraft will pose a greater challenge.

    Ya that article seemed about as balance anything Rush Limbaugh would write. Also given all of the science on the issue of global warming, the author's attempt to discredit global warming makes him not credible.

    His anger is well placed, but it does turn people off and obscures his message.

    No only those things that burn something that is carbon based. There are many things that burn but don't release carbon. With that said almost all things we burn for energy are made from carbon. The problem isn't burning and releasing carbon/CO2 into the environment. The problem is releasing "fossil" carbon into the environment. For instance if you burn a piece of wood, that tree was growing recently and the carbon in the wood was free in the environment/atmosphere very recently so in effect there is no net increase in carbon (tree grows and stores carbon, we cut the tree down and release the carbon). Fossil carbon (e.g. coal or petroleum) on the other hand consists of carbon that has been sequestered in the earth for millions of years. So while growing and burning a tree doesn't increase the net amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, burning fossil carbon does increase the net amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.


    You would be hard pressed to find any Senator/former Senator from Southern states that did not accept campaign donations from tobacco interests. Over a period of years any politician will grow/mature and their stance will shift on some issues as they come to understand an issue better. Senator Strom Thurmond is a classic example of this.
     
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