Googles sandbox (revised)

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by MikeSwede, May 26, 2006.

  1. #1
    I was just wondering WHY Google have their sandbox. Why do they need to put a site in quarantaine for 6-8 months when all other search engines can do it in a couple of days?
    I have seen some of my new sites get up there after a couple of days in a really good place just to disappear the day after and then it takes months before they show up again. Does Google have to shuffle around all the web sites as soon as a new web site makes it in? Does it take 8 months for Google to run through their algo and reindex the sites? Are they like 8 months behind with everything?
    Their sandbox doesn't make any sense at all to me! If you are new to building web sites and don't know about meta tags and submitting your sites then you are totally screwed when it comes to Google. Thanks God there are other search engines out there! Otherwise we wouldn't get any hits at all:rolleyes:
     
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  2. IndigoBlack

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    My site is only 3 months old and I get traffic from Google all the time. Out of the three big guys, in fact, Google sends me the most. I just don't have a page rank. Maybe it's Google's way of fight back against the spam and black hat techniques of getting a page rank. I do agree that it is frustrating but the only thing you can really do is focus on building a great site.
     
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  3. sezerb

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    My site is 5 months old and I get hits from Google. It also has a page rank of 4. Experience with the aging delay seems different for every website
     
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  4. thelouisvilleseo

    thelouisvilleseo Peon

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    The sandbox is crap - period.

    Reasons:

    1. They want money, stopping sites from getting indexed COULD potentialy cause them to lose money. Think if a site is doing poorly, they want people to pay for Adsense and get their sites listed through there.

    2. I've had a page indexed solid in 1 month, still up today...

    3. Why? Why? Why? Think - If I were a multi million dollar [Billion?] company, why would I risk losing potential clients? I wouldn't... I'd let "SEOs" spread speculation to hype our engine and raise their rates, the money is all going to search engines anyway.

    - OPINION/IDEA: If you don't like it, ignore it. Thanks!
     
    thelouisvilleseo, Jun 1, 2006 IP
  5. miskandar06

    miskandar06 Peon

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    Google's sandbox is a relatively new filter that appeared to be put in place back in March of 2004. This happened after the widely publicized updates of Austin and Florida, and the implementation of what is known as the Austin update. If you are not sure what those are, there is no need to worry as those updates are now for the most part in the past.

    The sandbox filter seems to affect nearly all new websites placing them on an initial "probation" status. The effect of this is that new websites may get into Google's SERP's (search engine results pages) relatively quickly and may even perform well for a couple of weeks. When the filter is applied to the new website it is referred to as being put in the "sandbox". The new website will still show in the result pages, but it will not rank well regardless of how much original, well optimized content and regardless of how many quality inbound links the site may have. The filter restrains new websites from having immediate success in the search engine result pages. Or in worse condition, if you rank well in all the other major search engines, but do not show up at all in Google's rankings, you have probably been sandboxed.

    No webmaster will like the Google Sandbox. But, a smart webmaster will use the sandbox as an opportunity to build a website that Google simply cannot refuse.

    If your website is sandboxed, here my tips to escape from there:
    1. Change your website layout
    2. Add your website content
    3. Submit your articles (with your website name attached) into some article directories to increase link popularity
    4. Submit your web to Social Bookmarking (only 3 Social Bookmarkings maximum per day).

    Google still ranks websites in much the same way that they had in the past. Websites are judged on the quality of their inbound links and the quality of their content. Google will continue to change how they evaluate inbound links and content, but the basic elements of their rankings will remain the same.

    Some opinions say that it takes 6-12 months to escape from Google Sandbox, while another opinions say it takes only a few weeks to escape from Google’s sandbox. But, if you do nothing, your website may not be released from the Google Sandbox.

    Finally, I want to say that the Google Sandbox is only intended to reduce search engine spam. It is not intended to hold people back from succeeding. Google is looking for websites that offer quality contents for us as Google’s customers. Google still relies on the natural voting system that was first used to establish pagerank. So, keep positive thinking ! ;)

    All the best,

    MES
     
    miskandar06, Dec 11, 2006 IP
  6. Phillzz

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    Can you explane this? Why?
     
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  7. ferret77

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    so how long does it usually take you to get some google rankings?
     
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    There is no easy answer to that. In uncrowded niches it can take as little as a week to rank for basic keywords. In crowded niches it can take up to 9 months.
     
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    like what would be a basic keyword? that you could rank for in a week?
     
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    purple widgets
     
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  11. ferret77

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    you guys rank for 2 word terms in a couple weeks?

    got any examples?
     
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    How do you know your website is sandboxed?
     
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    Thank You for answering my sandbox questions!
     
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    I've been pagerank 1 for 6months now. I'm trying to get more content and backlinks. I want out of the sandbox!!
     
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  16. Wilco

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    After about three weeks I started seeing my site in Google's search engine. In fact, well over 2000 pages have been indexed so far. Changes to pages still are updated very slowly. Also, despite the fact that I have been backlinking to my site, Google shows no record of any sites linking to mine. How can I make sure that Google starts "recognizing" the backlinks?
     
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    I love the sandbox, it keeps spammers, shady and fly-by-night businesses out of the SERPS.

    RESPECT the sandbox, and it will be your friend.
     
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  18. roy77

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    to prevent spam sites having a top rank. :)
     
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    What sets googles sandbox appart from others? New to SEO and looking for any info to help my site get off the ground. Thanks.
     
    refresh9149, Jan 5, 2007 IP
  20. marsel

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    I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU! FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL! ORGANIC TRAFFIC DOESN'T MAKE GOOGLE ANY MONEY FOR ITS DEMANDING GREEDY INVESTORS BUT ADDWORDS DO!

    GOOGLE NEEDS TO STAY BY ITS MOTTO "DON'T BE EVIL"
     
    marsel, Mar 26, 2008 IP