But the page DID come up in Google and it came up #1 -- WHEN THE CORRECT NAME OF THE PRODUCT WAS INPUT. If I have a page titled (and optimized for the term) David Baxter and someone types in David Firewall, should I be upset if Google doesn't list my page?
What he is saying is that they are the source for this product and they should have come up Minstrel. If I punch in Firebird sportscar I should see General Motors come up in the search close to the top, that is what he is saying. Again what we should be looking at is why, I think that is what he wants to know.
I tried "Firebird sportscar" and even "Firebird sports car" and neither yielded results that included GM in top 10. In fact, none even showed "Firebird" related sites.
Here is what I got from Yahoo. http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=fi...hoo!+Search&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8 GM was number 1 as a sponsored result and many auto sites came up.
Anthony, the name of the product is NOT "Bastille Firewall". Bastille Linux does include a firewall but it is much more than that -- it is a security package: Mia, try pontiac firebird -- whaT is the #1 page returned?
Well here is one for "Windows Firewall" and Microsoft is coming up high in the search on Yahoo. http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=windows+firewall&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&fl=0&x=wrt
HAve you actually looked at the Google results for bastille firewall? Every page listed there is about the application and tuning of the bastille firewall for various Linux "distros" (and not on the original site there are different versions for the different "distors"). What is non-relevant about that? More significantly, every page listed contains the words "bastille" and "firewall" in that order -- the original Bastille-Linux page does not contain the word "firewall" anywhere. And yet it is listed ahead of La Bastille in France... is that not relevancy in action? The page in question does not contain the word "firewall" and is not optimized for the phrase "linux firewall" or "bastille firewall" so it does not show up first in the Google SERPs for those phrases. It IS optimized for "Bastille Linux" and it shows up as #1 for that term. There is no mystery here. And there is no lack of relevancy.
The bottom line is that search engines should be idiot proof. A customer is certainly not going to look for the CORRECT NAME so that he can search for it in Google or any other search engine for that matter. That would be RIDICULOUS! Or try to "guess" at what he may "think" the site would have optimized for...c'mon now...it is all about returning the most relevent results based the search term entered at that given moment by that given person, no matter how smart or how stupid they are.
That is what I asked Minstrel. WHY? Not whose opinion is right or who is going to win the debate here
Then please somebody explain to me how a page that does NOT contain both the words "bastille" and "linux" should be expected by anyone to be more relevant than pages which do contain both those words... and in that order... for the search term "bastille linux". That's not a matter of opinion, AC... it's a matter of logic.
Well you got to the bottom of it Minstrel and all we can do is hope others contribute to the subject matter.
That is the million dollar question, because as you know, G doesn't place very much weight on content, but on off page factors.
I don't know that at all. Did you see this thread where I asked people to look at the results for the term "crap economical search engine optimization"? Do you think the word "crap" was in "off page factors" or "on page factors"?
Christ, 5 terms strung together? Of course, that's an exception, but we're talking about a two word phrase. In your example, crap is an ancillary term way way way down on the heirarchy of search engine querying, that is quite obvious. If I were a search engine, I would know at a certain point that I need to stop looking in anchor text and start looking at the next best thing available to me.
right, because odds are that not a single person on the planet linked to that particular page with that exact phrase....
Well I can search for "Elvis never Lived" and what is the number 1 result, the thread here at Digital Point by that name. But where was the word crap used on Mel's page, was that used on his page Minstrel? I will take your word for it.
Yes... the word was on Mel's page: crap economical search engine optimization -- result #4 now because that DP thread took over the #1 spot: Ab out half way down the page or so...
Minstrel it is getting late so I must let you and the other members sort this crap out You have a good one, great talking to you as always