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Google's Page Rank Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by soju, Jan 9, 2008.

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Google PR UPDATE -July 2008 " my sites pr increased "

Poll closed Nov 2, 2008.
  1. yes,i am feeling happy

    245 vote(s)
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  2. no,disappointed

    183 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. no change for me

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    26.7%
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  1. Kralj187

    Kralj187 Member

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    #9001
    Obviously PR isn't the biggest factor in SEO. Rather new quality sites wouldn't stand a chance against the old PR5+...
    SEMrush
     
    Kralj187, Dec 17, 2014 IP
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  2. dandeedo

    dandeedo Greenhorn

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    #9002
    30% agreed. PR may be not the biggest factor for you and others but for millions of SEO experts and their clients PR was actually one of the biggest factor in SEO!
     
    dandeedo, Dec 18, 2014 IP
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    Slincon Well-Known Member

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    #9003
    @dandeedo - I wrote a post on the 4 biggest SEO discoveries this year on that. Pagerank is dead, but it was really just a means to measure your site or how effectively you had improved a client's site - you could be PR 4 and still not rank for the competitive terms you were after. The dismissal of PR is more about Google trying to distance itself from the original algorithm (based on Larry Page's thesis) - pagerank was mostly based on links, and I think they want to dissuade webmasters from focusing on links, and focusing more on their content (and of course using paid ads as a means to generate search traffic ;))
     
    Slincon, Dec 24, 2014 IP
  4. benoitpaulantoine

    benoitpaulantoine Greenhorn

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    #9004
    PR still impact!
    Why?
    Just because google cannot break the framework.
    They just lower the weighting of this criteria.
     
    benoitpaulantoine, Dec 28, 2014 IP
  5. kingofthewiki

    kingofthewiki Greenhorn

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    #9005
    PR hasn't been updated is a while so I wouldn't recommend using it. There are many more metrics that can be used to measure a sites authority. Check moz for details.

    Has anyone heard of Trust Flow. No? Read about it and forget about PR
     
    kingofthewiki, Dec 28, 2014 IP
  6. DianaDMendez

    DianaDMendez Peon

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    #9006
    I dont think so because google has stopped updating PR, it can not be possible also for one month old websites or blogs.
     
    DianaDMendez, Jan 2, 2015 IP
  7. Jake The Competition Man

    Jake The Competition Man Active Member

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    #9007
    I believe no more in PageRank. It's much much better to focus on ranking and content. That's all. I use also nofollow in all my websites external links and something I suggest for all of your websites.
     
  8. benoitpaulantoine

    benoitpaulantoine Greenhorn

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    #9008
    If you believe no more in Page Rank why do you use "nofollow" in all your websites external links? ;-)
     
    benoitpaulantoine, Jan 11, 2015 IP
  9. Googl

    Googl Active Member

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    #9009
    Until a page reaches first page in search engine rankings PR is useless. It is very strange to see a site/page with a PR6 and recieving just a couple 100 visitors per month or per day.

    The ultimate reality is the best sites and pages rank high in search engines and attract a lot of visitors. This is the best indicate to judge how special the site is. You will know the effectiveness of your SEO approach when you start seeing search engine ranking shifts. This is an obvious indicator than waiting months for a number.
     
    Googl, Jan 11, 2015 IP
  10. thormat

    thormat Peon

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    #9010
    yes.backlink my
     
    thormat, Jan 12, 2015 IP
  11. pccyber

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    #9011
    page rank is dead...? but you can still can get rank on first page google.
     
    pccyber, Jan 12, 2015 IP
  12. Gary Barker

    Gary Barker Greenhorn

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    #9012
    I didn't know this would effect individual page PR, because although my homepage is a 4 all my other pages have no rank and that includes some I have attempted to structure the urls. But I have to admit I just followed some very simple dialogue in how to do this and so am almost completely new to this.

    I have tried to attached links but for some reason it won't accept them here. This is my first post is that why?
     
    Gary Barker, Jun 24, 2015 IP
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    nkgrg Well-Known Member

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    #9013
    it looks like google has abandoned it's pagerank strategies because I notice that there has been no updates of PR since long time.
    There are thousands of website owners dreaming to have at least PR1 to begin with, but who's going to listen to these poor webmasters.

    And have you noticed lately that PR5, PR6 backlinks are sold everywhere for a price of a McMenu. I remember, a PR6 backlink costed at least $60 a couple of years ago.

    Hope things will change in the months to come.
    cheers!
     
    nkgrg, Jun 25, 2015 IP
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    #9014
    Google PR is nonsense. GalaXearch.com no need PR and is the new rock star :)
     
    seocracker, Jul 23, 2015 IP
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    Not agree it have great reputation in past n still people are looking good PR website for getting link on it...
     
    Aryans, Jul 23, 2015 IP
  16. Mike Park

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    #9016
    I've befriended many local SEO consultants and well-known bloggers in my mastermind group and they all say the same thing: Updates in Google (Panda, Penguin, Hummingbird etc) actually boost rankings for their sites when they have no spammy backlinks. They all rely on Solid content and a high PR backlink pyramid.
    So let me explain: in a strong backlink pyramid there are no 100's of links going directly to the site they are trying to rank. Only 1 or 2 high PR3 or PR4 legit reputable sites. and then there are about 10-20 links linking to those. then 50-100 linking to those.
    Get it?
    If You buy spammy bot backlinks on a Blackhat SEO site, this hurts your rankings in the long run. You need a good pyramid.

    The quickest path to success is by modeling. Modeling the successful people. And the people having success in SEO is modeling the SEO consultants and successful bloggers
     
    Mike Park, Dec 15, 2015 IP
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    [Q
    Yes, you need more posts for that.

    Getting back to the subject at hand. If you are a SERIOUS SEO specialist, you will not even TALK about page rank anymore because it died a really long time ago. When people ask for links from PR X sites, they do not know SEO and if you sell links based on PR, you are taking advantage of them. As a transparent and true professional it is important to explain what happened in the industry and when someone asks for links from PR X sites, explain what the real deal is.

    I actually disagree here. The quickest path to success is not to model your business after what others did. The path to success is to come up with something new, innovative and effective, based on the information you gain after you analyze what others did. By the time you model what the SEO consultants and successful bloggers do, you already lag since they do something else.

    Branding, content marketing, public relations, networking - these are far more important than any SEO strategy you would use, especially when referring to people that just start out. For instance, people try to copy the idea of "top 10 ways to" that is popular at the moment. Why do 10? People already know 10. Do 20, 30, 100. Do all that you can to stand out in the industry and all of a sudden even SEO is easier.

    When there is a blind focus on building a pyramid tier based link building strategy, just one article that is REALLY REALLY good and that you share to an industry influencer on social media (Twitter mainly) and he likes it and recommends it to his audience will give you much more SEO benefit than half of that pyramid you build. Getting others to link to you on their own thanks to the QUALITY you offer is the best ranking strategy possible. No pyramids. No bought backlinks. No tier building.

    Let's say you want to do SEO for a company that sells mugs. A video that you make with the team there making the mug and painting it for the holidays will bring in faster SERP increases than any pyramid you build, no matter the quality there, for a much lower price.

    I any case, I deviated from the subject. Bottom line is that Google Page Rank is dead, will not come back and nobody should actually talk about it again. :)
     
    Adrian235, Dec 15, 2015 IP
  18. SEO.Student.15

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    #9018
    So I am new to this site and this may not be the place to ask this but i will because i was reading this thread but why did i have to go to page 451 of this thread to find current posts? It stated out showing me a bunch of comments from 2008, is there a default setting or something so that is not the case? Thanks.
     
    SEO.Student.15, Dec 16, 2015 IP
  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #9019
    I've not played with my control panel settings in a while here or at any other VB driven site in some time, but as I recall there is probably a setting to allow you to change the order in which you view threads. I'd suggest poking around there, or googling for the answer.
     
    Mia, Dec 16, 2015 IP
  20. SEO.Student.15

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    Thanks Mia! for getting back to me. Yea i will continue looking around, and going to different topics with less replies to see if its different there. Little by little i guess, that how we learn right.
     
    SEO.Student.15, Dec 19, 2015 IP
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