Google's caching of websites

Discussion in 'Google' started by NewComputer, Mar 8, 2005.

  1. #1
    I have seen in the last few days something very odd and wanted to know if anyone else has seen this. I have been working to get a few customer sites updated and indexed. New content, fresh content and a few backlinks. I was seeing that Google would do one of two things:

    1. Crawl and cache and then within a day go back to the previous cache date of the old page. It would show the new page and new content in the cache. Then, when I checked later in a day or so it would show the old page and the old cache date.

    2. On a new site, it cached and indexed a page, then a day later the cache would be gone and there would be NO cache. This has happened about 3 times with this new site.

    Any ideas. The second site is just a one page informational page. Contact info, map and a little about the company. They just wanted their contact info online and to be found if someone search their name.
     
    NewComputer, Mar 8, 2005 IP
  2. DarrenC

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    #2
    My main site usually is cached daily, lately though it's cached less frequently, at the moment it's a cache of 4 March. Im not sure how regular the bots are because I don't track them.

    What I have noticed today is if you do inurl:www.mydomain.net it brings up the description on my homepage of what is on the Google directory. It doesn't bring through the description tag or content, just the directory description.

    Anyone else noticed this?

    Suppose it won't affect the rankings, because when you search it brings through the meta description and content... it's just weird. Also, when I do the same command in Google UK I get returned 189 pages, then I click on the link at the bottom to view all pages, it brings up a result of 7,114 which is roughtly right.

    Weird goings on at the moment.

    Darren
     
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  3. Design Agent

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    Yes, I was just about to start a post on it ;) I am seeing my DMOZ (or Google dir.) description being used in SERP results. Although I am still seeing the same rankings. Only on some datacentres though.
    Reasons for this ? my guess would be to make the serps look cleaner + to make it slightly harder to analyse why sites are ranking as they do.

    Not good unless DMOZ starts updating.. my site says i sell products in London.. well maybe 1 or 2.
     
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  4. mcdar

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    I have been having a similar problem with our experiment page. Google has not been keeping the cache fresh!

    I believe this has something to do with why we are bouncing all over in the serps.

    The page I am referring to has more external links pointing to it than any other page on our site and Googlebot is there every day.

    But when I check the cache of the page - Google is returning a cached page from Feb. 7th!!!!!!

    It is due to this that I have taken to checking and recording the cache date every day to see if I can figure out just what is going on.

    Caryl
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    You think that is bad, I am seeing stuff in the cache from last November. Does wonders for the co-op and validation.
     
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  6. NewComputer

    NewComputer Well-Known Member

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    You and me both MC... Npt a lot consistency with what they are doing right now. The two sites that this is happening to are unrelated, incomparable and completely unique. One has good backlinks and one has none, one has lots of pages with unique and well written content and one is one informational page and one is part of the coop and one is not.

    Let me know if you figure this out and I will try to do the same.
     
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  7. mcdar

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    NewComputer,

    Has your allinanchor rating also suffered? Since Feb 9th - 10th our allinanchor went crazy!!!

    It had been a solid #2 for allinanchor for months and since the February "Event" it has been in the clouds (100s - 300s), all over the place.

    Caryl
     
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  8. hurricane_sh

    hurricane_sh Well-Known Member

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    I believe it's all about links, if you build several strong links (pr 5 or higher), the cache will stay, if you update the sites daily, Google will cache it every day. I have only seen one site whose cache gone and come back several times - I only build one link for it.

    The indexed page count keeps going back and forth though, between several thousand and a couple of hundred.
     
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  9. NewComputer

    NewComputer Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely Caryl,

    I was #2 - 5 for about 7 terms that are now 200 - 400 range... It makes no sense, we should compare sites ;)
     
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  10. DarrenC

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    Prior to my sites reduced PR from 6 to 5 I have found it harder to rank new keywords, where before I would point a few good links to the page, and optimise it, and it would rank well within the week of the site been picked up by Google, now it's harder to get a new page ranking well, and longer for Google to index that new page.

    I think it was Dominic who recently mentioned that he thought Google had changed the algo to make it harder to move to PR6 etc. Those that were a low PR6 moved to PR5 etc.

    This makes sense why caching is slower, new pages are taking longer to get indexed and rank, as more links need to be pointing to a page for it to rank well. It's a theory, but a theory that when you add it all together make sense.
     
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  11. justtara

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    Goolge was doing some strange things with my ADD Coaching Page. It's usually at 3 or 4 for the term ADD Coach and ADD Coaching. I was starting to get a bit nervous because it wasn't coming up at all and there was no chache for it or any other info in google for it. This was going on for about 24 hours.

    Now it's back at 4 or 5 and cached as of today. It sure is strange... :eek:
     
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  12. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    I've had a couple of sites that were cached and now no longer are. Even more strange is that an old site is now showing a cache from 2003 when I only bought the domain in 2004
     
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    After missing for over a week I'm back in the top 10!!! Let's just hope it stays this time!

     
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    Google has slowed down it's grabbing of pages for me. But I'm revamping my site so it's tough to say.
     
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    i have one for ya.....

    Newer Site... about three months old and Google has been getting chache every couple days but had not had any pr yet.

    today i checked all my sites with DP's keyword ranking tool and the tool showed me that this site is now PR-8 with 0 back links and 0 pages indexed.

    So naturrally i went to the site and the toolbar showed no pr, no chache and google site command showed 0 pages indexed.
     
    kaptain, Mar 24, 2005 IP