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Google's 2007-Q3/Q4 PageRank (PR) Update

Discussion in 'Google' started by hitboy, Jun 7, 2007.

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  1. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #1581
    Let's dispel any myths by seeing what the Google guy Matt Cutts says:
    Quote: One of the classic crawling strategies that Google has used is the amount of PageRank on your pages....

    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/q-a-thread-march-27-2006/
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    So Google's "crawling strategies" are linked to "the amount of PageRank". What is unclear about that? I and many other DPers understand perfectly well the cause-and-effect aspect of links-and-PR. However, Matt Cutts goes directly to the end product and says that the "amount of PageRank" affects the depth of Google's crawl. The amount of PageRank — the final number. Every time Google does a crawl (which is endlessly) do you think they recompute the links every time (of course not)? Or do they (as Matt says) take a number, an "amount", that is, your PageRank, and use that to help them determine how deep to crawl.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #1582
    That article is over a year old. And even in that he says "getting good quality links would probably help us know to crawl your site more deeply", I think that's what he actually meant to say in the first place and was using PR as a guide for people to judge how many links they have. I don't think actually meant the 0-10 value is what they refrence when deciding how deep to crawl a site.
     
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  3. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #1583
    Well, we can amicably disagree on that interpretation. Matt did say their crawling strategy looks at the "amount of PageRank".
     
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    PalSys palsys.io

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    #1584
    Whether we all agree on it's import or not, Page Rank is what it is. It seems a little foolish to me to argue over the importance of something that simply exists without our input or advice.
     
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    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #1585
    Right... but he is talking about the amount of actual PageRank, not the visible PageRank. Have a visible PR4 one day, then having an update, and having a visible PR7 afterwards, does not mean that you were crawled at the PR4 rate the day before the update and crawled at the PR7 rate afterwards... if you were going to be a PR7 once the update hits then you are already getting crawled at that rate, regardless of what the toolbar says.

    The main benefits of the PageRank export, to us as SEO's, is:

    1) It gives us a sense of accomplishment.
    2) It does make other people (whether they know it or not) take our sites more seriously... webmasters who know the difference are more likely to link to a higher PR site, especially in a link exchange.
    3) It gives us a better idea of where we want to focus our efforts on getting links from.

    -Michael
     
    mvandemar, Jul 26, 2007 IP
  6. FredrikMH

    FredrikMH Active Member

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    #1586
    I agree! If I get PR7, I might actually think it's worth celebrating by going out and meeting friends and socializing which means the chances of getting laid are increased dramatically compared to if I keep my PR6 and have to start link building again.

    The sad thing is that there is actually some truth in it :)
     
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  7. mvandemar

    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #1587
    No, I meant I insist on believe that chicks have the hots for guys with high PR's.

    -Michael
     
    mvandemar, Jul 26, 2007 IP
  8. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    #1589
    Then you go ahead and think PR is just a number. As for me, I know what I understand that blog entry to be saying and I know PR is more than just a number.
     
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    #1590
    So you prefer to get CRAWLED MORE then to have GOOD rankings

    Damm that's vry logical lol

    I knew that's the only role of PR but it's like olmost 0

    PR IS A NUMBER nothing more
     
    w3bmaster, Jul 26, 2007 IP
  11. DarkX

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    #1591
    Yep PR is a number which can even move your PayPal numbers too. :rolleyes:

    DarkX
     
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    #1592
    lol

    Four days and then it updates?
     
    Audentio, Jul 26, 2007 IP
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    #1593
    slight edit: Only if you are in the SELL linking business. My PR doesnt give me anything, besides prolly helping with SERP. well maybe.
     
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    #1594
    Actually i meant that (selling link etc) ;)
    PR show some reliability/trust(?) to a site.(site is old etc)
    well,thats what i think atleast.

    DarkX
     
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    #1595
    yeah its just like you say size dont matter;),well guys it does:p.....and it is only a number!:D
     
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    #1596
    do you think that PR doesn't help on SERP?
     
    gibex, Jul 27, 2007 IP
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    #1597
    Erm, high PR automatically comes with good ranking

    good ranking = organic backlinks = PR

    High PR site + daily content creation = Faster indexing = more traffic
     
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    #1598
    Anyone who makes money with a website knows how the income DROPS when the PR falls. PR makes or breaks you financially. If you are not selling anything on your website, you probably do not understand this symbiotic relationship. This must be why some people think "PR is not important..." Maybe not to them, but to those of us trying to make sales, PR is crucial.
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #1599
    For people like me who own web directories, PR is pretty important. Higher PR means higher revenue.

    I havent seen the update yet, but digpagerank keeps showing my site flicking betweek PR N/A and 0.

    So i guess the real update will happen on sunday.
     
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    #1600
    That's not true.

    You're leaving out the fact that 99.999% of the keywords out there don't need a ton of backlinks to rank for.

    -Michael
     
    mvandemar, Jul 27, 2007 IP
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