Google's 2007-Q3/Q4 PageRank (PR) Update

probably at digpagerank.com

 

Anyone else unable to see their GWT backlinks, for the past 24 hours or so?

" Pages that link to yours [?]
http://www.(removed).com/

Our system is currently busy. Please try again in a few minutes. "

 

People need to relax and not worry that much about it.

 

Back links were updated again on some of my pages and also SERP.

 

Exactly. For that very reason, I wish Google would eliminate public PR.

 

MY TOOLBAR PAGERANK JUMPED FROM 5 TO 7 !!!!!!!!!!!!!


But then I discovered it was the PR of a different page and not mine (must have clicked on a link) .... I tell you, if you want to go from being completely excited and really happy to being completely depressed and sad ... try that .... It worked for me

 

Then the same thing would happen over again. Each system has it's flaws; eliminating public PR is a bad idea.

 

I think that the current PR method of ranking sites out of 10 is very misleading. Site 'A' could have 2 backlinks to its site from pr7/pr8 sites but have little content, and then Site 'B' could have 50,000 natural backlinks from relevant pr1/pr2 sites which link to it because it has lots of good content.

Site 'A' may receive a PR7 and Site 'B' may only receive a PR3/PR4 at the
most.

Which site would you say was the best? I think due to this reason the current google PR ranking method is extremely flawed. I hope they are doing something to fix this as we speak.

 

see http://www.copywritingexperts.co.uk/seo-must-change

pagerank seems to be reprogrammed thats why its taking long

 

This thread is pointless and should be closed if there is any admin

 

i will unsubscribe from this thread...it's like a neverending drama show ( with 6000+ episodes)

 

it's a good thing this thread was saved by the last two contributers. Thank god.

 

You are probably trying to Parse your PageRank through a Flash Document because NaN in Flash is "Not a Number" - so it is probably casted as a :Number and returned a result of a string like "You have tried to view PageRank too many times"

 

1. PR doesn't "rank" sites.
2. Toolbar PR is merely a graphical representation which approximates actual PR.

On what do you base this conclusion?

Due to what "reason"? You made some questionable suppositions about what Google does with PR and backlinks, and on the basis of your assumptions you conclude that Google needs to fix something?

 

1. I think what pets4homes meant by "Pr method" is Pr system, and of course, it ranks pages based on a number of criteria.
Saying that PageRank doesn't "rank" is just like saying evaluation doesn't evaluate

There is a plenty of evidence. You may get a very good pr with a single backlink.

 

DharmaSEO -- the color was orange at DigPageRank.

Green means that the PR is valid.
Orange means that the PR is not confirmed.
Red means that the PR is fake.

Of course, since it has been 5 months since we have seen PageRank change, even the so-called valid PageRanks only reflect the ranking from the last export to the Google toolbar.

 

No. Google uses a set of algorithms and filters which examine a large number of factors to rank pages in a search query. PR is one of them but far from the only one and often not the most important or influential one.

Remember that the "Page" in "PageRank" doesn't refer to web pages but to one of the authors of the technique.

Sure. But what pets4homes said was:

I don't disagree that a small number of backlinks from high PR sites may have a significant impact (assuming it's not discounted in some way by Google's various filters). It's the second part that (1) seems very dubious, and (2) seems to be the basis for the conclusion that PR needs to be fixed.

I was referring to the conclusion that Google needs to "fix PR".

 

Hmm it's been about a month since I last checked this thread... Much of the same.

I also have a feeling this thread MAY hit 10,000 posts before we see the next update! I think that could be calculated into tens of thousands of hours of wasted webmaster productivity.

 

I would disagree about the actual role the PR plays in the Google algo. We don't really know how it is calculated, and certainly the difference in serps can be clearly visible only when you run a pr7, 8, or pr9. In other cases, for reasons such as low pr sites ouranking higher pr sites in serps, it may seem that pr is not that important (wrong assumption). Although, the name of the PR system may come from the author's name, which coincidently is suitable (sort of a pun), I don't think it would be called VladislavusRank if that was the name of its author.

 

If author's name was Join Paid, then a Paid Rank would also be coincidently suitable.

Low PR sites outranking high PR sites...you would be only possible to make this conclusion shortly after the toolbar PR update. You can see PR0 in toolbar, but the site may actually already has PR6.

Low PR site can still outrank high PR one. I find as extremely difficult to find out, if the site has its SERP because of PR or because of backlinks - they are the same thing, but not exactly the same thing.